Lord help us - The Perry Super Thread!

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  1. maxiep

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    The Left has a dogma every bit as strong as religion, they just don't acknowledge it as a matter of faith.
     
  2. barfo

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    That's pretty funny. You really don't see a difference between religious belief and "belief" in, say, Keynesian economics?

    Ok, Mr. Kettle.

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  3. barfo

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    If you want to say economics is a matter of faith, I guess you are entitled to.

    barfo
     
  4. blazerboy30

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    You're getting upset about basing decisions not based on fact, evidence or data. I know you see the parallel, but instead you'll turn it into an argument about semantics.

    But for fun, why don't you enlighten me about how different the two are?
     
  5. barfo

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    No, I'm not getting upset. I was just expressing a preference for making decisions based on evidence rather than supernatural belief.

    Maybe later.

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  6. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    Just wow.

    Economists are akin to astrologers. Otherwise Obama's predictions about unemployment if we mortgaged our children's future for the liberal spending agenda would have come true.
     
  7. barfo

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    Even I don't think that little of economists. They have their place. They just aren't omniscient, and expecting them to be is expecting too much.

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  8. Denny Crane

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rick-perrys-very-good-week/2011/08/22/gIQAsoRNWJ_story.html

    Rick Perry’s very good week

    By Marc A. Thiessen, Published: August 22

    Manchester, N.H.

    He left his cowboy boots in Austin, but Gov. Rick Perry brought some Texas straight talk to New Hampshire. “Live free or die, you’ve got to love that,” Perry told an audience in Bedford last week, adding that the state motto reminded him “of a little place down in Texas called the Alamo.” Perry’s promise to make Washington “as inconsequential in your lives as possible” is resonating in libertarian New Hampshire. He has moved into second place here after just a few days in the race, registering 18 percent support among Granite State Republicans.

    The secret to Perry’s success? One word: jobs. As Perry explained in Portsmouth, he has “ten years of leading a state that inarguably has the best record of job creation in America — no offense to any other candidate, but no one else is close to that.” As if on cue to prove Perry’s point, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported on Friday that Texas had added another 30,000 jobs in July — the state’s 10th straight month of job growth.

    ...

    The power of Perry’s jobs message is not lost on the White House, which is why Obama officials spent much of the week trying to shoot down the “Texas miracle” — arguing that most new Texas jobs are low wage and have little to do with Perry’s policies. So it is significant that while Perry was campaigning in New Hampshire, back in Texas the Democratic head of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, Richard Fisher, gave a speech supporting Perry’s claims. Over the past two years, Fisher said, “Texas has accounted for 49.9 percent of net new jobs created in the United States,” and the vast majority were equal to or above the national average for weekly wages. “These jobs are not low-paying jobs,” he said. Moreover, Fisher added, the reason so many people and businesses have been moving to Texas is that “private sector capital and jobs will go to where taxes and spending and regulatory policy are most conducive to growth.” Translation: Texas is creating half the new jobs in America, thanks to the pro-growth policies Perry presided over. (Or, as Perry put it here, “They aren’t coming because we have good barbecue and warm weather in December.”)

    Contrast Perry’s good week with President Obama’s dismal week.
     
  9. huevonkiller

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    Haha nice. Lol fuck this guy, he's made some of the worst economic predictions I've ever seen.
     
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    I accept your apology.
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    He's always apologizing. Call him an apologist.
     
  12. bluefrog

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    I thought we were talking about Perry's scientific views...
     
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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    a letter to the editor...

    When Rick Perry ranted that President Obama does not love America, and suggested that Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke is “almost a traitor,” he showed voters that he responds not by addressing issues but by attacking people with whom he disagrees.

    Imagine Perry’s response as president when an individual citizen, group or foreign country disagrees with him.

    Republican leaders in Congress have expressed concern over Perry’s remarks — not because they reveal a reckless personality and worldview dangerous to democracy, but because when voters hear the real Rick Perry, before the public-relations machine gets hold of him, he “could scare off swing voters.”

    This hothead, beloved by the tea party and funded by a few billionaires, has small chance of being nominated, much less elected. But it should give us pause that neither character nor ability to lead matter to the Republican Party leadership. What matters is that Republican candidates’ true selves remain hidden long enough to be elected.

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/2...-labors-keep-Perry-s-recklessness-under-wraps
     
  14. Denny Crane

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    “As to the assumed authority of any assembly in making paper money, or paper of any kind, a legal tender, or in other language, a compulsive payment, it is a most presumptuous attempt at arbitrary power. There can be no such power in a republican government: the people have no freedom — and property no security — where this practice can be acted: and the committee who shall bring in a report for this purpose, or the member who moves for it, and he who seconds it merits impeachment, and sooner or later may expect it.” “… and the punishment of a member who should move for such a law ought to be death.” -- Thomas Paine

    “We are fast verging to anarchy & confusion! … They are determined to annihilate all debts public & private, and have Agrarian Laws, which are easily effected by the means of unfunded paper money which shall be a tender in all cases whatever.” -- George Washington

    “Paper money is liable to be abused, has been, is, and forever will be abused, in every country in which it is permitted.” -- Thomas Jefferson

    “The extension of the prohibition [of paper money] must give pleasure to every citizen, in proportion to his love of justice and his knowledge of the true springs of public prosperity.” -- James Madison
     
  15. Denny Crane

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    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/already_hearing_footsteps_hv70gEUDCj3FouvwtSiAiL

    President Obama must be really scared of Texas Gov. Rick Perry -- given that it is more than a year before the election and Perry isn’t even the Republican nominee. Why else would the White House be just making stuff up about him?

    Consider Education Secretary Arne Duncan’s claims against Texas schools.

    According to Duncan, Texas’ school system has “really struggled” during the 12 years that Perry has been in office.

    “Far too few of their high-school graduates are actually prepared to go on to college,” Duncan told Bloomberg’s Al Hunt. “I feel very, very badly for the children there.”

    Huh?

    As education policy wonk Andrew Rotherham pointed out to Duncan in a previously scheduled interview, Texas is basically average when it comes to test scores and graduation rates.

    “Texas students scored right around the national averages in reading and math on the National Assessment of Educational Progress,” he wrote online.

    “And according to an Aug. 17 report by the group that administers the ACT college-admissions exam, Texas high-school graduates only narrowly trail national averages for college readiness,” he found.

    “True, the national averages aren’t great, but Texas is right there with the pack.”

    Duncan had no real response to the facts.
     
  16. bluefrog

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    Denny, you can't believe everything you read.

    2009 SAT scores - Texas #45
    2009 ACT scores - Texas #39
    2009 NAEP 4th Grade Reading - Texas #40
    2009 NAEP 8th Grade Reading - Texas #50
    2009 NAPE 4th Grade Math - Texas #38
    2009 NAEP 8th Grade Math - Texas #40
    2010 High School Graduation Rate - Texas #44

    Texas has a pretty bad education system.
     
  17. barfo

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    I wonder what those guys thought about horses as a means of transportation? Or about slavery? Or the possibility that man could make flying machines? Or about credit cards? Or the internet? Or trade with Japan? Or, you know, just about anything relevant in today's world?

    Thinking that all the answers to modern problems are contained in something written 200+ years ago is just as silly as thinking all the answers to modern problems are contained in something written 2000+ years ago.

    Personally, I believe all the answers are contained in the cave paintings at Lascaux. If it doesn't involve spearing a bull, we shouldn't be doing it.

    barfo
     
  18. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    ....or the Dead Sea Scrolls..............................brutha. ;)
     
  19. barfo

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    The cave paintings are much older, and therefore, more applicable to 2011.

    barfo
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

    Perhaps.

    Pictures, though, are open to all kinds of interpretation(s). Words are much more literal......less subjective.

    I think. :lol:

    Word pictures are the best. You paint so many here, barfo. :)
     

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