Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2089503,00.html
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... Maybe you want to read your own links? Like the first one I opened, http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2010/2010341.pdf, says: "Averaged freshman graduation rate" 74.9, and Texas is at 73.1, which is "right around the national average."
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... That's pretty nitpicky (what'd I'd expect from a lawyer???) Still below average, Duncan's points are still valid. You can't really make an argument that Perry has done a good job with education in Texas.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... I guess this is the thread for all Perry news now. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61982.html#ixzz1VyGxca30
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... That isn't the argument. You can't really make an argument that Texas is doing particularly poorly at education.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... They are pretty clearly worse than average. But not as bad as the deep south. As has been the situation for decades, so it's kind of irrelevant Perry-wise. barfo
Google Rotherham and get back to me. It's a loaded issue, about how you measure performance. Like D.C. Schools are not so good even though we spend 1.5x per student. vs. the average.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... Ok, I did that. Didn't find any information about schools in Rotherham, but they do have a soccer team. Find me some measure of performance where Texas schools excel, and maybe we can talk. Just saying there are different ways to measure performance isn't saying anything we don't already all know. barfo
Rotherham is the author of the Time magazine article I linked earlier. I think he qualifies as an education and education policy expert. Qualified to be Secy of education, even. So whatever measures he's looking at are likely a bit more nuanced than SAT scores, though he does say Texas does fine with their ACT scores. It could be (nuance) that they take the ACT a lot more than SAT in Texas...
In any case, the point remains that Obama must be scared of Perry, like the op says. Obama loses FLA in the latest poll to three of the republican candidates. Reason to be scared.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... he should be afraid of perry, but not for the reasons you think.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... I just did. I just gave 4 sources and 7 measurements by which Texas is below average (way below in most cases). I even used the National Assessment of Educational Progress that Rotherham referred to. (Rotherham: "Oh the average really sucks and Texas is below it but their schools are OK") Do you honestly think the schools in Texas aren't that bad? Convince me. Show me some objective data that proves they're at least average. Choose you're metric. Attendance, gold stars, PTA members per capita, anything. I want to see you side of this argument
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... Oh, so now you are in favor of believing experts without viewing their evidence? Funny how that works only when the experts have a point of view you agree with. barfo
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... It's much more honest and accurate to say Perry ignores factual reality, scientific evidence and reasoning in favor of silly fantasies, and therefore is unfit to lead anyone.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... if he loses, we'll have another dumb texan in the office who will probably fuck things up even worse then bush (or obama) did/has.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... not really. because the idiot before the 'smart' guy dug us into such a big hole AND the republicans keep fucking things up (you can't just blame it on Obama), that they'll just keep digging even deeper to pad the pockets of those they care about. I really doubt it'll take "decades" to get out of it. There are simple fixes they can do, but they refuse to because it doesn't make for good political spin.
Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views... Spending and charging up the charge card is real easy to do. Paying it off, especially at minimum payments, takes years. The thing is, it may take several years just to get the budget close to balanced before there's any money to start paying the principle on the debt, and on top of that, the entitlements are going to put a serious squeeze on tax revenues beyond what they take in from payroll taxes.
