Again, where is Obama's bill? I agree with some of what you're saying, but this entire PASS THIS BILL bullshit is political theatre and should be mocked. Even the Dems aren't gong to pass it, if it is even introduced. You have a problem with what the Rep did; I don't and I applaud him for pointing out that there IS NO BILL TO PASS. To me, it seems ridiculous to have a President screaming PASS THIS BILL for a week now on the campaign trail, er "jobs tour", when there is still no bill to pass, and a bill hasn't even been scored by the CBO.
Obama's bill makes it illegal to discriminate against unemployed This is a controversial provision. From my experiences nothing was more frustrating when I was job hunting than to see a job I was qualified for and see the phrase "Unemployed candidates will not be considered" in the job description. On the other hand I can see people abusing this and suing employers simply because the didn't get the job and justifying it as discrimination.
Interesting. Not sure how I feel about that - it seems to me (un)employment history is a key factor in hiring, would be impossible to ignore it. But then I wouldn't refuse to accept applications from the unemployed altogether. Don't know how you could successfully anyway - most unemployed nowadays call themselves "consultants". barfo
Taxing corporations is stupid, sorry. Whatever tax you think they're paying, they pass on to all of us as higher prices. In effect, taxing them is just taxing us.
Obama did submit his bill to congress a few days after his speech. It's now just silly to ask where is it. But it was silly of him to not have the bill in hand when he said to pass THIS bill.
Link? Who introduced it and sponsored it? What is the HR #? What is the title of the bill? I'm pretty sure he hasn't had it introduced, but if I'm wrong, I'll retract that criticism.
Oh, I thought you meant the House, which is where spending bills must originate. Kind of hard to PASS THIS SPENDING BILL when it hasn't been introduced in the House, but whatever.
So is safe to assume papag would like us to disregard rants like this for the past couple of days? Papag, first there was some thread where you claimed it was the first time you knew Miller hadn't made it past the first round only to have someone show you started a thread about it months earlier. Now you been ranting nonstop about no bill for a couple of days (thanks for clarifying DC). I think you are one of the more entertaining posters here (that is a good thing), but it's getting hard to believe anything in your posts these days . . . come on you are better than this.
Where is the spending bill for the House to pass? How can the bill become law when the side of congress it must originate in doesn't even have the bill for an up/down vote. The President is yelling PASS THIS BILL, but that isn't even possible at this point because it doesn't exist in the House. Introducing it in the Senate is just more political posturing, because they can't really do anything with it until the House gets it and the CBO scores it. So, can I disregard the silly rant you just posted?
The house has a rules committee that decides how a bill can be introduced. Since it's controlled by the republicans, they can delay it's introduction. There us an actual bill in written form in the hands of people in both houses of congress. I don't see where there's any hay to be made here.
Yeah, ok. If you say so. The largest GDP growth in the US was during a period of high corporate rates and high corporate tax receipts. So, I am not so sure it is a simple as you claim. Corporations are a creation of the state. Corporations are gifted with limited liability to the shareholders and many other special privileges. The should pay for the special gifts they receive. Otherwise, screw the whole thing and eliminate Corporate franchise. No limited liability. No corporate taxes. How does that suit you?
The point is that not a single Democrat has tried to introduce it, nor has it been assigned a HR#, so blaming the GOP for there being no bill is disingenuous at best. You knew that, though. Either that or you're clueless on how the House works, which I don't believe. There is no bill to pass in the House, there is no bill to delay in the House, because the bill hasn't even been introduced at the committee level. Blaming that on the GOP is just plain dishonest by you.
There isn't though. There is no bill in the House that can be scored by the CBO or voted on by the House. Why are you lying about it?
Denny's logic: It's the GOP's fault that not a single Dem has introduced Obama's bill in the House. Let's go back to PoliSci 101, shall we? You're wrong, Denny. All a Dem needs to do is get the bill in the hopper, get it assigned a HR#, and then send it to committee. If the GOP stalls it there, that's on the GOP, but we're not even at that point. The fact that Harry Reid introduced a revenue bill in the Senate was a mere political stunt, which is why hardly anybody heard about it. Looks like he fooled you, though.
