Fisher says owners' proposal of punitive luxury tax is "still as close as you can get, if not a hard cap."
Hunter: "Unfortunately maybe we need to miss a few games for them to know there's resolve among the players."
B.Hunter says he feels cancelled games can be made up if deal done in next 2 weeks. D.Stern seemed dismissive of that notion.
Man the NBA is making it so easy for me to stop caring about its product. Stupidity and greed all around.
What is the average NBA career? 5 years? If they just cancelled (on average) 7 games, that's 7/(82*5) = 2% of the average player's career. Thus they need to get an extra 2% from the owners (over what they could have gotten last week) just to break even on not caving in last week. I'm not taking sides, but I don't see how this ends well for the players. barfo
These guys are all retards. Taking a stand and listening to shitty effing lawyers never got anyone anywhere. I blame this all on lawyers. Lawyers suck ass. They ruined the game. Started with the shitty cheating refs and now this. The NBA can fuck themselves.
The NBA has owners losing a lot of money, including Paul Allen, on their teams. The players have zero leverage, and apparently there was some game that LeBron James organized over the weekend that nobody wanted to televise and barely got a blurb in the papers or the media. I guess I don't see the problem witha a 50-50 split in revenues. As some players have shown, there are overseas opportunities to make money, so they are free to go there to play, or even to start their own league. There are more professional opportunities for NBA players than there are for NFL players. I think that players signing contracts overseas only weakens the players' case. Those who have done so are SCABS, IMO.
Yep. I agree. Basketball is supposed to be a thing of joy and passion, but it seems like everyone from players to owners have boiled it down to dollars and cents. I understand their point of view, but if they act as if it's all business then they should expect the "fans" to also realize it's just business, ,turn away from the game and look for joy and passion elsewhere.
They just said kobe lost $1,000,000! I can tell you that the amount I just lost will be missed more then his!!!!
Succinctly put and well said. I was already to the point of being disappointed in the NBA product and this dispute in our current economic environment is about to push me beyond the point of caring at all.
Uh, major fail on both the definition of scab and the economics of the situation. barfo (yes, I am a former union member, thanks for asking)
I'm really having trouble seeing a season at all. If the union continues their unrealistic stance, the owners' best move is just to forget the season. Take off an entire season and the players will play for nothing in 2012-13.
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