LeBron to the NFL

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Absolutely ... but NFL players also have something else that most other people don't: a desire to get hit and hit other people as hard as they can. Maybe Lebron would be one of those guys, but having not played football since high-school I get the feeling there'd be some real eye opening pain sent his way.

    There's a reason the Raiders have been hit or miss on a lot of prospects over the past twenty or so years, Al Davis always loved the height-speed guys over the "production" guys and as a result his hit rate hasn't been what it was in the 60s and 70s when most teams were still trying to hoard bad-body, unathletic, corn fed white boys.
     
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    I think Professional Bass Fishermen would be good NFL quarterbacks because casting a fishing line is just like throwing a football.
     
  3. huevonkiller

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    Qbs get hit in the NFL? I think you meant Running backs.

    Also NBA players are huge, that's the biggest thing in their favor.
    Yeah the difference is that fatasses in that sport aren't quite as athletic, fams.

    There's this Michael Vick guy who was an awful pocket passer and a brittle, fragile QB in Atlanta.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I wish he would do it, not because I wish an injury on him, but because I would love to see him get laid the fuck out trying to come across the middle.
     
  5. Spud147

    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    What about Charlie Ward?
     
  6. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    What? You think Lebron would play QB? Oh god, no way in hell. With his speed, size and leaping ability he'd be a pass catching tight end in the mold of Antonio Gates or Jermichael Finley
     
  7. huevonkiller

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    Yeah you're too obsessed with the pocket-passer stigma. There are other ways to play that position.

    There's this Cameron Newton guy who probably would not be able to hit jumpers at LeBron's rate. LeBron is more accurate than Kobe and Durant on long jumpers.

    Size and athletic ability have everything to do with the QB position. I love seeing Newton dominate, but there are NBA players with just as much, or more potential.
     
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  8. Mediocre Man

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    WHAT THE FUCK DO LONG JUMPERS HAVE TO DO WITH THROWING A FOOTBALL?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! The NBA 3 point line is 23' 9" from the basket. Even rounding up to 24' that is an 8 yard pass from the line of scrimmage. So again I ask....what does shooting long distance have in common with throwing a football on a damn dime down the field?

    Size and athletic ability have some to do with the QB position, not anywhere close to EVERYTHING. Bledsoe, Marino, Falco, Raplesberger, Manning(S) to name a few aren't at all considered athletic QB's.

    As for Cam Newton "domninating"? He is 1-4 as a starting QB, with a total QB rating of 46.6. Good for 20th out of 32 QB rated for the year.
     
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    Look at Antonio Gates. He was runner up for Mr. Basketball in Michigan in high school and played for E.Michigan and Kent State. Gets drafted by the Chargers and ends up being the best TE in the league for several years. Lebron is three times the athlete Gate's is. I have no doubt that Lebron could be a very good NFL player if he put in the work. The dude is a freak, probably the best blend of all around athletic skill ever. Size, speed, quickness, power, finesse, soft hands, etc. etc.
     
  10. Mediocre Man

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    I also have no doubt that after really devoting himself to it that Lebron could play TE in the NFL. I don;t for a second think he could play QB though
     
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    Damn you went psycho on me, but at least get the facts right.

    You seem confused by Total QBR. Cam Newton has the most Action plays in the entire league, meaning he's asked to do a lot more than any other QB.


    Sorry but I got this strange vibe from you, you think only Danny Ainge would make a great QB? That seemed like a weird response to me, like only some statuesque white guy can play QB.

    Listen bruh, sorry but you've already been proven wrong. Michael Vick is a terrible QB with no height or durability when he was in Atlanta.
    That sounds pretty desperate, I would love to see you criticize those other QBs in their rookie seasons. Lol whatever.

    You sure you want to stick to this nonsensical position next year? Also it is 18th out of 32. Sorry you got your feelings hurt by Cam Newton in the title game, but yeah he is one of the best rookie QBs ever in the NFL, if not the ROTY by the end of the season.

    Look up Total QBR and try again, you fucked up dude.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    For almost every position on the field in the NFL, there is something required that no almost NBA players have: serious mass.

    Kickers and punters can get away without having great general strength, and a WR or DB could conceivably get by without it (see: Deion Sanders) but at TE? I don't believe that a guy--even who is a pass-catcher, rather than a blocker--who's 6'8" could play at 250 pounds.

    Gronkowski is 6'6" and one of the taller tight ends... and he weighs 265. Finley is 6'4", 240ish. Gates is 6'4", 260.

    James would have to put on 20+ pounds of muscle, IMO, to avoid being broken in half by the monsters that would be hitting him. And, as powerful as James is in the NBA, there's no guarantee that his body would be able to put that kind of weight on very easily, let alone stay injury-free.

    In terms of playing QB: I think that many NBA players have the innate capabilities, but at the NFL level players have had 15+ years working on their craft, and there's no WAY that a guy could pick it up at that level within a year or two. Heck, there are amazingly talented NFL players who played QB in college (Hines Ward, Antwaan Randle El, et al) who just weren't good enough, skill-wise, to make it in the NFL.

    Ed O.
     
  14. huevonkiller

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    Yeah that is pretty much obvious.
     
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    That seems fair, I concur. A potential NBA player would pretty much have to switch careers and probably play college football. But this is merely a discussion about potential.
     
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    You are right about 18th instead of 20th, my bad....That makes all the difference in the world.Cam Newton is not the issue here. I think he might end up being a good QB someday, and is doing far better than most predicted, including myself. Your initial question that started this entire fiasco was
    My answer was Ainge because Ainge was a high school all-American QB in high school, and considered one of the top football recruits in the country. Lebron didn't even play QB in high school.

    And I might have missed something, but when did Michael Vick come into this conversation? Michael Vick, by the way has an overall losing record as the Eagles starting QB. I found that shocking when I heard it

    Also, as a global mod, you should know that there aren't supposed to be any personal attacks, so calling me a fucked up dude shouldn't be allowed. I get that there is a double standard, but there really shouldn't be
     
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    Yeah you fucked up dude, how is that a personal attack?

    The most easily offended people should never control free speech. Also of course LeBron would not be a good QB today, but this is just about potential so I have fun with this subject. Newton will be a fine QB but NBA Superstars are more athletic and more skilled overall.
     
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    I believe he said "you fucked up" not that you are fucked up. IMO saying someone fucked up isn't a personal attack. And for the record, I did just have to edit one of Huevon's posts in the OT section for calling someone a moron so I'm not giving him a pass for being a mod.
     
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    Yeah that's right, Sly was being a petty person in that other thread and edited me.

    So there, stop the conspiracy theories. Lol.
     
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    Not skilled at QB though. Maybe a good example is Charlie Ward? Heisman trophey winner played in the NBA because he was not an NFL caliber QB prospect.
     

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