The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I think it gets done tomorrow, and signed Monday or Tuesday. You will be fine. Even the greediest idiots on the planet know it will cost everyone more to lose games than to lose a BRI % point


    3.6B in BRI over 82 games games is about 45 million a game
    52% as opposed to 50% of BRI is about 70 million ish
    If it is a 6 year deal, that is about 450 million

    If 10 games per team are missed bc the players want 52 instead of 50, the players lose everything they'd get if the owners completely gave in to them.
     
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  2. THE HCP

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    Prominent agent says union informed him that deal could be reached by Saturday. Check out @NBATV for latest info...
     
  3. THE HCP

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    Sheridan with the 1PM Update........



    Lockout update: Around the Web

    By Chris Sheridan
    October 28, 2011 at 3:59 PM


    NEW YORK — Greetings from yet another lockout stakeout, where the media has become part of the furniture in the hotel lobby.
    Both sides made it clear last night that dealmaking time has arrived, and they were scheduled to try to tackle the thorny issue of the BRI (basketball-related income) split first thing in the morning. The talks began at 10:30 a.m., and there has been no word from upstairs in the 5 1/2 hours since.
    We media folk are gearing up for a long afternoon stretching into a long evening that perhaps stretches into the early hours of the morning, and I would not at all be surprised to be sitting on the same sofa I am sitting on now when Saturday night arrives.
    Now, let’s have a look around the Web to see what is being reported.
    Kate Fegan of philly.com: “In talking with those around the 76ers organization, there’s a decided sense of optimism that today (and by “today” we mean “today” as a starting point and likely stretching through the weekend) is the time for a deal. And that’s the first time it’s been that way. Both the NBA and the union have said a lot of things the previous two days to excite the fan base. Things like, “A deal is within reach if both sides show some flexibility,” and, “We’re preparing to negotiate over everything,” and even admitting that they’re considering ways to still play a full 82-game schedule. Stripped down, what each side is saying is that a new collective bargaining is possible, and the only way things fall apart this time is if one side (or both sides) refuse to display the necessary flexibility. It’s no longer a matter of a ridiculously un-closeable gap, it’s a matter of stepping to the plate and saving the game. In the last three days, because of the odd hours, I’ve been Tweeting and interacting with a different segment of the Sixers’ fan base: fans located overseas. All of us here at the stakeout have been reminded of the global reach of this game. Even if there’s a certain sense of apathy in the U.S., and certainly that apathy exists in Philly (go ahead and post another “Who cares?” comment!), there is a notable following overseas. The NBA is risking a heck of a lot during this lockout, even if many downplay the game’s relevance domestically.
    Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo Sports: “There’s strong belief on both sides that Friday’s bargaining session could culminate with the framework of an agreement to preserve most, if not all, of a full season. “It’s moved to a very good place,” one source briefed on Thursday’s 7½-hour bargaining session told Yahoo! Sports. “There’s a strong expectation [within the negotiations] that hands will shake [Friday].” … The progress on Wednesday night had been spurred by quiet talks between the two sides in the aftermath of an acrimonious and abrupt end of discussions last week. “Clearly, things happened [in recent days] to get this from a ‘sad, sad day for the NBA’ and ‘you were just lied to,’ to a current tenor where all signs point to the real possibility of a deal,” one source briefed on the talks late Wednesday told Yahoo! Sports.
    Henry Abbott of ESPN.com’s TrueHoop: A third contributing factor, according to multiple sources, has been the absence this week of one of the union’s most feared negotiators, lawyer Jeffery Kessler. Owners make no bones of the fact that Kessler, the first name in American sports law, is a bear in the bargaining room. Some point out that the NFL players got a deal only after Kessler left the room. (Kessler might point out that the NFL players didn’t get the best deal.) Much was made of Portland owner Paul Allen’s appearance in last week’s mediated session. The suggestion was that he was there to send a message that owners were holding a hard line. NBA sources, however, say it was nothing of the sort. In fact, they say, he was there at the invitation of the NBA’s negotiators to watch Kessler. Allen was one of several owners who thought Stern and Silver had made players an overly generous offer of 50 percent of basketball-related income. The league’s lead negotiators essentially replied: Go see for yourself. You think you can get Kessler to go for 47 percent? Good luck to you. In the ongoing dance between Hunter and NBA agents — many of whom feel Hunter is soft, risk-averse or ineffective — Kessler has been seen as something of a shield for Hunter. If a tough lawyer such as that will go for Hunter’s deal, who are the agents to complain? But that shield has been out of action and not, sources insist, because he is in the doghouse.
     
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    I wish I could get a refund for NBATV, from when the lockout started until the lockout is over.
     
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    InsideHoops: I no longer fear a lost #NBA season. Not sure when lockout will end, but several VERY reliable people say SOON
     
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    oh wtf.

    Chris_Broussard Talks btwn players & owners just ended. Split of BRI still issue. Neither side budging. Players still at 52, owners 50.
     
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    Talks btwn the players & owners just ended. Split of BRI is still the issue. Neither side budging. Players still at 52, owners at 50.
     
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    This seriously blows.
     
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    FWIW, not really gonna believe the NBA BRI reports until I hear it from someone other than the players' mouthpiece.
     
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    It will get done by or on the 1st of Nov.
     
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    ouch Amico bringing the big guns, but Hahn has said the same. He did say "on the verge of blowing up," while Broussard said "talks ended."
     
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    @alanhahn: I'm hearing things may be on the verge of blowing up again. BRI is extremely sensitive topic.
     
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    AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I'm noticing NOBODY else is tweeting any of this! What is really going on!?
     
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    Hahn has no credibility. Will wait to hear it from someone more reliable.
     
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    Hope so. They just better not leave on sour terms and screw this up. Broussard, I believe is not even at the hotel, so his sources are clearly secondary.

    BTW, if they're talking BRI, I'm guessing they are both in agreement about "the system?"
     
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    Nothing for over 6 minutes! Something is up!
     
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    Not getting too excited. Could easily see this being cleared up tomorrow and hoping it does. They made too much progress it seems and they can regroup to make the numbers work.
     
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    Some conflicting info here about what's going on. Stand by ...
     
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    Source with direct knowledge of NBA talks: Union wants 52 pct of BRI, owners willing to give 50. Expect them to meet at 51. "Soon."
     

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