The Official S2 NBA Lockout Thread!

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by THE HCP, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Way too many updates coming in right now. But I'm very surprised the mediator allowed Stern to go into this much detail about their proposal to the public.
     
  2. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Tax payers with $2.5 mil MLE is reasonable, but the no S&T for all tax payers will seriously change the way we look at trade deadlines and expiring contracts.
     
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    No sign-and-trades for tax payers kills D12 to LA

    I want this in the CBA
     
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    Ken Berger: It's a 50-50 deal up to projected revenues. If business does better than expected, players get 57 pct of the 1 pct. between 50 and 51
     
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    funny how they included the number 57.
     
  6. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    holy shit. I just gained an hour.
     
  7. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Woj:

    nice.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    And also CP3 to NY.
     
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    Adrian Wojnarowski: Veteran player who has long been on side of decertification just texted me: "Time to blow this (bleep) to the moon."
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    well shit.

    Berger: Fisher: We've been given the ultimatum and our answer is that's not acceptable to us
     
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    ^^^

    And....

    Brian T. Smith: Fisher: "I'm not sure when or why'd we'd meet [with the NBA again] with the ultimatum on Wednesday."

    Guessing no season.
     
  12. illmatic99

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    This is so stupid. What's the guarantee that they will get better deals if they do decertify?
     
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    Adrian Wojnarowski: Several agents believed bad turn today in talks would get them player support they need for decertification. They're polling players now.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Are the talks being held in Zbo's suite at the Hotel Vintage Plaza because the union just got screwed in the ass.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Maybe I should use some expression other than "dogging it" but it seems obvious that a guaranteed contract is like an insurance policy against injury. If players aren't insured anymore, the playing standard to which they adhere will be to not risk injury as much as they do now.

    You say, just cut the few who play that way, but they'll all play that way. Wouldn't you?

    In the 60s, NBA players played to conserve energy more than they did by the 80s. Dave Cowens in the 70s started diving to the floor for loose balls, getting kneeburns, and shortening his career. If you watched then, it's easy now to imagine the return of a less risky style of play.
     
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    My opinion of Nazr Mohammed has gone up in this lockout. That man takes no shit!
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    my favorite one is this one:

    A team that's paying the luxury tax cant go out & compete in free agency. They wont b able 2 keep a championship team 2gether n Dallas' case


    Well actually, it means they'll have to compete smartly instead of just throwing more and more money onto it. I'd rather it not be the same teams (who have more money then the rest) being able to do whatever they want.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Gee that would be such a shame if a handful of teams couldn't so easily create dynasties and use the rest of the league as their farm system. Pure tragedy. What a fucking idiot douche.
     
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    You think this is going to stop players signing for the Lakers or Heat? You sign on even for half what under-the-cap teams can pay and your merchandizing potential more than makes up for it. So yes, this might affect the Mavs (and certainly would hurt the Blazers if they weren't going to suck anyway) but it's not going to hurt the teams everybody hates already.

    And for all the league talks about parity, you think David Stern is going to allow a system that prevents teams like the Lakers and Knicks putting together dynasties?
     
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    You talk as if those things are contradictory. Um, do you remember the Mavs before Cuban arrived and started "throwing money around"? They were complete and utter shit.

    So you'd remove the Blazers' only advantage over other small market teams (a rich owner)?
    So you'd have small market teams all gamble on having a superstar sign with them by letting all their players get away (to clear cap space) only to have him sign for less with a big-market team anyway?
     

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