Kolde goes after Canzano

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Mediocre Man, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Christ, who's handling PR for this team? There's nothing inherently wrong with calling out an inaccurate report, but there is no way to win when you go up against a guy who already has an axe to grind with a bully pulpit and and give him a reason to line you up in their crosshairs.

    Getting involved in a nasty tete-a-tete with a local columnist should be about priority number 500 out of 20 for the guys at the top.
     
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  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    For the record, I've never said waiving Roy is the "one and only true and right and perfect move." I just think it's the most sensible and the highest percentage play for the long-run health of the franchise (making LMA the man, increased opportunities for Nic, Wesley, Williams, etc., better team chemistry, parts that fit better, establishing a style of play that showcases LMA, etc.)

    But, yes it's entirely debatable ... that's why we have our opinion and you have your diametrically opposed point of view. But, what makes your position so morally superior? Should I start calling you out because you have your "one and only true and right and perfect" opinion? I couldn't care less what you (or anybody else) thinks about it -- meaning I don't take it personally when you (or others) disagree with me.
     
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    Rhal Well-Known Member

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    The thought of not amnestying Roy made me think that a decent sized offer to Oden would make it unlikely for us to match because of how much money on the books.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I'm no believer in Oden, but I believe he's got a better chance of living up to a contract than Roy.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Just because you've argued it, doesn't make it debatable.


    I mean I could argue that Babbitt was a steal last year
     
  6. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Yet, that wouldn't be debatable. No one else would agree with you.
     
  7. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I think is is safe to say some things are more debateable than others. In the Roy case both sides make good points about waiting. And by both sides I mean around 40-60 % of fans.

    In the your Babbitt debate you may stand alone about the "steal" part.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Ya. I was just playin a character.

    I certainly don't think Babbitt was a steal. As for Roy, IMO there is absolutely no good reason to keep him because him, his doctors, the Blazers and anyone else in the know has said he will never be the same. If the goal is to win a championship, having his contract around your neck is not doing you any good. IMO. Can he be productive? Absolutely. Can he win you a few games? Absolutely. However, he will also lose you a few games because you just don't know which Roy you will get on any given night. And sadly, right now, this teams isn't very close to a title.

    But in the real world, and not in character world on the internet, I respect the other opinions, and hope for the best.
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    That actually has nothing to do with the validity of a position in a debate.
     
  10. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Where did I state that?

    I think I am just reacting to MM's high horse opinionating - acting like the Blazer Brass are morons for not doing what he wants and announcing it before it is even possible.

    In fact, I have stated without complete information - which none of us possesses at this time - a rational decision cannot be made, and I have mentioned it is possible that using the amnesty on Roy may be the smart move if he is in bad shape.
     
  11. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    But they are morons if they don't do what I want
     
  12. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Well that is on top of the absurity of the claim (that Babbit was a steal). So, you have a stated opinion not supported by facts, sense or logic AND you have no one agreeing the absurd expressed opinion.

    Is that better for you?
     
  13. Pinwheel1

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    But you are still are not making a case for delaying it one year. Cutting him now MAY NOT get you closer to a title. Waiting to use the Full MLE exception until next year (On say Freedland) MAY be a better option. It is totally debatable because you are paying him either way.
     
  14. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Do you not think that Roy's meniscii being completely removed isn't "complete information?"

     
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    PapaG Banned User BANNED

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    ...hey now, I'm the semantical one around this joint. :)
     
  16. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Very true. In fact, I think one of Bert's duties is cleaning the wax from Paul Allen's ears.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It's really too bad that we couldn't amnesty Roy and then have him re-sign with us for a reasonable cap amount. The issue isn't that he quit, got fat, sucks, etc. The issue is that his body betrayed him. It's no one's fault. Yet for the good of the team, we're going to have to separate ourselves from a great guy. What a shitty situation. Why couldn't these issues happen to a guy a like Ruben Patterson?
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    We got the raw end on Darius, as well. What a sucky situation that was.
     
  19. Mediocre Man

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    It's not like Roy won't get every penny owed to him.
     
  20. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I wish that Kolde douche would stop using my moniker.
     

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