To be fair, Denny, it was the uneducated masses that thought so (and I fully put "religious vocationists" in that category). Greek scientists/mathematicians knew the earth was a sphere (and the circumference) a few centuries before Christ.
Again, all archaeological evidence points to what I said to be true. Human history dates back to roughly 3200 B.C. Secular humanists claim to pride themselves on facts and evidence but so far I haven't seen any. The one's I have, have been proven fraudulent yeas ago (I.e Piltdown man)
Well with things like these involved with the previous computing power. I would think it could help run through possibilities of situations.
Jesus existed in Spirit before the creation of the universe. Prophesies in the Old testament tell of a coming Messiah (see Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Genesis 3:15, Isaiah 9:6 etc.). This was God's plan to reconcile humanity to Himself all the way back since the Genesis creation story.
I'm still not sure what Denny's point was with posting that. How the universe is expanding versus how it was created are two separate issues. You're all over the place and are confusing things.
you're asking about things that are common knowledge. you're free to research this stuff if you want to. start by googling age of the earth. men have been wrong. nothing that has reached the level of scientific consensus that evolution or the age of the earth or no global flood in biblical times have has ever been proven wrong. pascal's wager is just stupid, and we're not strictly arguing about the truth of christianity here - just the historicity of genesis and exodus, since you said nothing in the bible has ever been disproven.
I haven't seen any evidence that there is a God, nor does it seem a particularly plausible idea based on anything I have seen evidence of. Generally, yes, although I would say that the possibility there is a god goes up if you generalize it to any of the gods that various religions have proposed, and it goes up considerably more if you include deities that have not been proposed. barfo
I already have given my opinion on carbon dating. Discoveries like these are few and far inbetween, and there is no way to objectively verify whether or not they are accurate. There was a study done once where they separated a fossil of a dead animal into two and sent them to different labs for studying. One lab claimed the remains were 10,000 years old and the other claimed they were 20,000 years old. They can't both be right, but they can both be wrong. The fact that Biblical archaeology is flawless makes me more inclined to believe what the Bible says over man-made carbon dating. Oh, and one thing I haven't even mentioned yet: I have experienced the healing power of God in my own life, things that are beyond explanation. Prayer works, one with faith makes prayer a very powerful tool. I wasn't always a believer either so don't expect me to be biased.
Sure, men who are born in the latter part of the 20th century know for a fact that the earth is billions of years old. Of course, we have carbon dating! Actually yes, they have. Many, many times actually. There is no 'consensus', they are still just theories. As time continues to move forward they will only stay that way. Stupid or not, it's true. If I'm wrong (which I'm literally 100% sure I'm not), then not a conscious thought will pass through my mind after I die to know if I'm wrong. It's just a matter of what you choose to put your faith in. Have you gone out and studied the evidence both ways, or are you just taking someones word for it?
that's interesting. http://www.hillmanfoundation.org/blog/coffee-enemas-aromatherapy-and-intercessory-prayer-your-tax-dollars-work
By that logic, let's examine your suggestion and mine. 77000/4000 ~=20. Have you come across any examples of carbon dating being 20 times inaccurate?
Matthew 4:7 God is not some genie in a bottle who must bow down to the wims of mankind. Put a study to God and don't expect your prayers to be answered.
I personally believe that carbon dating is hardly accurate at all. 4,000 years is a LONG time believe it or not. Weather and conditions can do a lot to affect to the appearance of ancient items (exposure to salt water for example. Global flood anyone?) It's not a proven hypothesis nor will it ever be imo.
what is your opinion then of this? That is not GOD directly doing the work. Did their power of prayer go through despite worshiping false profits?
