Was Jesus a real person?

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    excusing the lack of documentation just supports being agnostic on the subject, which is my position.

    i'm not arguing that early christians weren't sincere in their beliefs.
     
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    sorry that's just a dumb argument. the survival of christianity, no matter how improbable you want to paint it, isn't evidence its tenets are accurate.
     
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    does the fact that sai baba exists make you any more compelled to believe what he says?

    people who want proof aren't interested in faith.
     
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    But is it dumb? You base your "Faith" on logic; which is a pretty dumb logic. Unfortunately for many that consider themselves "Agnostic" or "Atheist"; they have Faith in logic. That is the same "emotional" faith of those that believe in God.

     
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    Hmmm, I don't know if you are educated about the "evolution of man"; but did you know that scientists built the "Nebraska Man" from one tooth? Did you know later, that tooth was later determined to be an extinct pig?

    Lucy was just a skeleton of a chimpanzee?

    Heidelberg man, was a jawbone that was later admitted to be human?
    Did you know the Pilton Man was built from a jawbone, that was later discovered to be a modern ape?

    Did you know the Neanderthal man was later discovered the skelton of a man suffering from arthritis?

    As you can see many "Evolutionists, Atheists, or Agnostics" go to great lengths to prove their faith to no avail. Yet they base it as fact and it's in all the public biology books as fact. Now you tell me what makes this any different that the "Christian Faith"?
     
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    Hmmm, I don't know if you are educated about the "evolution of man"; but did you know that scientists built the "Nebraska Man" from one tooth? Did you know later, that tooth was later determined to be an extinct pig?

    Lucy was just a skeleton of a chimpanzee?

    Heidelberg man, was a jawbone that was later admitted to be human?
    Did you know the Pilton Man was built from a jawbone, that was later discovered to be a modern ape?

    Did you know the Neanderthal man was later discovered the skeleton of a man suffering from arthritis?

    As you can see many "Evolutionists, Atheists, or Agnostics" go to great lengths to prove their faith to no avail. Yet they base it as fact and it's in all the public biology books as fact. Now you tell me what makes this any different that the "Christian Faith"?
     
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    wow. what color is the rock ceiling in your cave?
     
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    People want to believe what they want. They'll accept any so-called "evidence" to support their own beliefs. My life is not dominated by me needing "answers" to life's "questions". I just don't care if there is a God or not, or if human beings evolved from earlier forms of life over millions and billions of years. I have 70, maybe 80 years on this planet and in this life and me knowing the secrets of the universe isn't going to make my time with my wife and family any more enjoyable, or make my job easier, or put food on my table, or give me any amount of happiness or security. My life is worth living every single day because I exist, not because some ethereal deity chooses it. People who spend their lives looking for these answers are wasting valuable time and energy, in my opinion.
     
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    now i think you're really just an atheist comedian leveling me. had me going for a long time.
     
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    So you say I come from a rock because I don't believe in darwinism? Show me any scientific documentation or research that proves it does exist? I am talking about the evolution of man.
     
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    Since you've already made up your mind that you don't believe in it, that would be pointless.
     
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    Glen Campbell knew Jesus before he was a superstar

    That's good enough for me
     
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    whether you believe in evolution or not your prior post is obviously just a list of anti-evolution propaganda that creationists websites use to influence people that know absolutely nothing about the subject and are too lazy to research what is known for themselves. that's what i meant by you living in a cave. read a science book - if god exists he would want you to.

    fakes like piltdown man were exposed almost immediately by the general scientific community and have nothing to do with why there is a scientific consensus for evolution. Neanderthals were either a subspecies of humans, or a separate species, but known from many skeletons and a very real thing.
     
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    I can totally respect your thinking. Much more than the contridiction of Darwinism or atheism or agnostic belief. They try and force their beliefs "which mind you aren't scientifically documented" down our throats. They force their Darwinism on the children of schools, without any physical proof of their theory. It's no different than creationists. They call us bigots and dengerous, yet isn't it also dangerous to falsify science to support Darwinism? Isn't it also dangerous to say there is no god, when they don't have proof there isn't one?

    This is where faith comes in. There are those that believe there is a God and will go to great lengths to support their belief and then there are those that don't believe in god and will go to great lengths to disprove it as well. The funny thing is no one has concrete proof on their belief.
     
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    Um no, look it up on Wikipedia and all the proof is there. All of what I've said about evolution is true.
     
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    Lmao!!! Yet you've already made up your mind that god doesn't exist and ask us to provide proof. A little contradicting are you?
     
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    regardless of whatever side of whatever argument, the "look it up on wikipedia" is a tough one for me to swallow. if nothing else, at least link to some of the source.
     
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    Oh they have references on their definitions and findings at the bottom. Also, on "Darwinism". There are exact quotes made by scientists, Darwinists and creationilist; so you get the perfect "neutral" point of view.
     
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    I never asked you for proof that God exists. I simply stated that I didn't care. You obviously care if evolution is true or not, and since you've made your beliefs known, me providing evidence to the contrary would be a waste of my time and yours. Enjoy your self-knowledge of the unknowable. Hope it lets you sleep better at night.
     
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    Okay fine Brian, I will post links and quotes to support my argument... I was on my iPhone before, but I turned on the desktop to sum it up.

    Evolution
    In 2001, staunch evolutionist Ernst Mayr wrote the following:

    http://conservapedia.com/Nebraska_Man

     

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