Iguodala (again)

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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Calderon is playing his best ball ever, so I don't think they're in a hurry to move him. Three names that spring to mind are:
    Mo Williams (who seems to be a Blazer-killer)
    Ramon Sessions
    Luke Ridnour
    Common theme: they're behind the future of the franchise. Of course, the same is true of Andre Miller...
     
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    Except none of the three represent a big enough upgrade over Felton to justify the move, and outside of Sessions, I suppose, not looked at as a PGOTF type for us.
     
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    Sessions makes the most sense as he'd fit in perfectly with the second unit and Crawford.

    Calderon would be even better with his shooting but I don't think the Raptors are ready to move him considering Bayless would be the likely starting PG.
     
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    Roddy Beaubois is a guy I like. But, I think he's the PGOTF for the Mavs. Hell, the way Kidd's playing he might be the PG of the present.
     
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    Remember also: Bayless is out injured.
    Beaubois has disappointed me. He's another pint-sized shooting guard. He's the Jason Terry of the future, not the Jason Kidd.

    Rubio is reminding people of what PGs can do for a team.
     
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    Roddy is an open court dynamo. He'll be good. He's got ape-like arms. He just needs some seasoning.
     
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    LameR Ha Seung-Jin Approved!

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    Huh? They're 3-7.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Have you watched them play or seen how razor thin their margins of defeat have been (against the likes of the Heat et al.)? They're not world beaters (yet) but they're much better than their record.
     
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    They're not better than their record. Bad teams lose close games. And the margins of defeat haven't all been as razor thin as you claim. They lost by 10 to Toronto. They lost by 11 to a Derrick Rose-less Bulls. They're a bad team. I talked to Bayno though. He says the players listen and they know they're rebuilding but it's fun.
     
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    The Wolves also lost by 11 at home to Cleveland.
     
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    Also, playing the Heat close is no huge accomplishment. The Bobcats lost to the Heat by 1. The Warriors actually beat the Heat. Not impressed.
     
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    Rose played against them.
     
  14. Rastapopoulos

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    You mean the team that just demolished the Suns in Phoenix? How did the Blazers do in Phoenix again?

    Of course, Kyrie Irving (who will beat Rubio for rookie of the year, spoiling what would otherwise have been 3-in-a-row ROYs for players from the 2009 draft - to be followed next year by Claver) is also demonstrating what PGs can do for a team.
     
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    What was their record against those teams last year? Have you heard of the method of difference?
     
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    Rubio has been very impressive. Yes being a rotational player on a winning team can be evidence of good play, but its not the be all end all. Just one metric of many that point to the productivity of a player. There are horrible players on great teams and great players on horrible teams.
     
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    I have a feeling that once the scouting on Rubio comes back; he won't be as productive as his stats are early in this season. Not comparing him to "Sergio" in terms of talent; but Sergio had that great penetration and kick out pass that opened a lot of scoring opportunities. Once teams realized he couldn't make a lay-up; they just let him drive to the rim and get the rebound or play the passing lanes. Sergio became a "non-factor" because they took away his strength.

    Now obviously Rubio is different because of his ability to shoot the ball; but he will have a weakness. And once an experienced team is successful against him; the other teams will follow suit. He may end the season with very average numbers. Hey may end with great ones. I'm gonna hold my opinion until the end of the season on just how "Real" he truly is.

    He's a rookie, with little scouting. It would be nice if he keeps it up. I love when a player proves the world wrong.
     
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    I see a lot of stupid trade proposals in this thread.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Every rookie hits the wall, but frankly the gulf in talent between he and sergio is so wide that it makes the comparison almost meaningless. This kid is special. he plays D, his passes are Kidd-like and as you mentioned, so far he's shown he can shoot it a little bit. He's going to either be the the rookie of the year or the runner-up. He's going to be really, really good -- scouting or not.
     

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