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  1. Denny Crane

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    There's no reason to expect the Big Bang was some sort of even distribution. Roll the Yahtzee dice and you'll see they don't fall in some perfect pattern.
     
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    All of this debating and we haven't even touched the teleological argument, aka atheist nightmare. But we have the multiverse theory to explain that one away too.
     
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    This is a pretty cool take too.

    Again this isn't a creationist point of view, nor it's a Atheist's accepted theory. It's just another angle that questions both.
     
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    i don't think i said that, or didn't mean to. obviously many productive scientists were/are religious. about 40% of all scientists are theists.

    what i said was no scientists working in relevant fields are young earth christians.
     
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    it's not relevant.
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    OK

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-scientists.html
     
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    http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/morality.htm And I really like reading from this website.

     
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    Actually it's very relevant. It is showing that you actually don't know. And then you say "Right Now" and Denny posted the relevance of productive scientists being committed to their faith; proving once again that there are "relevant" scientists in the field today that are still deeply committed in their faith.

    Hey you may have points about your theories but don't build straw man to influence this thread.
     
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    lol where did that come from? i said people responsible for the arguments on creationist websites etc. you are getting your ideas from aren't scientists and frequently misrepresent the positions of working scientists. for example few scientists would agree the matter/energy that now exists had an absolute beginning or must have appeared from nothing, yet you at least twice implied it was scientific consensus. also you're mis-conflating elements of different theories like spacetime and quantum mechanics without realizing it, trying to make non-existent points.

    you won't be able to make any point if you don't know what the theories you are referring to actually say. just trying to help you out here : )
     
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    There are literally black, dead areas in the universe that are billions of light years wide that science has yet to provide a reasonable explanation for.
     
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    But they do fall and must follow the law of gravity!!! LOL, I know, I'm reaching. <-- insert :MARIS:
     
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    oh my mistake:

     
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    factoring in theoretical dark matter the distribution of visible matter in the universe is what we would expect it to be. it's a mystery what dark matter might be, but its existence is a reasonable explanation for the facts.

    even if that weren't true you're just appealing to god-of-the-gaps.
     
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    I did research the list of names. That site lists 300 YECs who have masters degrees and work in relevant fields. It lists 150 who have at least on PhD.
     
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    Hmmm really?

    http://www.christiananswers.net/creation/people/wilder-smith-ae.html

    What are you talking about?!?!?
     
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    Thanks. This, like the multiverse theory, requires blind faith to believe in since there's no actual evidence for it.
     
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    obviously : )
     
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    Denny I really like your approach to this debate and others regarding creation or non-creationists topics. You are trying to look at it from different angles; thinking outside the box. And we might not agree, but I can seriously respect you and listen to what you have to say with an open mind.
     
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    Oh sorry... It should have been green. LOL
     

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