Since Mags's thread about atheism was (deliberately?) flawed from the beginning as you can't prove a negative, let's try to discredit atheism the only way possible. By proving god exists. I'd like to see whatever convincing evidence beyond the bible that you can bring. If all you have to offer is the bible and other people's interpretation of it, I'll just ignore your post without comment. If all you have to offer is "other theories don't make sense" or "only intelligent design makes sense", I'll just ignore your post without comment. If you have any evidence at all not drawn from the bible, koran, torah...please bring it. I've never come across a shred so I am eager to see what you've got.
This is an interesting statement to me. The God-concept is basically the essence of the super-natural; that is to say, evidence of God would be, by definition, something that cannot be explained via natural means. So, by dismissing any evidence which includes other theories not making sense, aren't you excluding anything that could possibly qualify as evidence of God?
Seems that way. But I'm gonna read this thread and see how it pans out. Funny thing is that it is an exact copy of Atheism is not a sound belief. I haven't brought up any of the Bible, Koran or other religious texts in my evidence. Maybe he doesn't like my thread title.
Which brings us to why this tread is flawed from the beginning. We'd need a whole thread about the Definition of what God is, and come to a consensus on that, before we could even begin to provide "evidence," that "God," exists.
I say bring whatever evidence you like. If you have evidence that's objective and measurable, Maris will convert.
If there were truly "evidence" that God existed, then there would be no reason for faith. Faith is one of the basic tenets of Christianity.
Use the Bible, but be warned you have to show it isn't a work of fiction. I think you will have serious trouble showing that. In the other thread I mentioned taking a picture. I was referring to a picture (or movie) of the burning bush. Even that evidence would need to be thoroughly scrutinized to show it wasn't photoshop or Hollywood special effects. Carry on.
I don't, because it is designed to fail. You cannot prove a negative, but you can certainly prove a positive so I thought this might tip the scales a bit toward the religious side.
You can prove a negative. I can take a picture of the blue dumpster outside my office building to prove it isn't red.
That's a good point about the Bible reference. Gonna have to think about that. Maybe my first string of evidence would first associate the Bible as being of God's inspiration? Then if you agree on that; then we can move on. And I would rather reply on the "burning bush" thing on that thread. Doesn't seem to apply here.
