Trail Blazers waive guard Armon Johnson

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  1. e_blazer

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    Look, I'm not trying to make some Pollyanna-ish case for Oden's future health probabilities. I'm saying $1 million is chump change in the NBA and if it keeps good will with Oden and his agent, it's probably worth it just in case things happen to work out and he's able to play a few years.
     
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    I agree with this. It's not like Greg is even a distraction at this point. He's not worth any stress by fans at all -- I hope any sane fan is beyond worrying about it. Greg's cost is like keeping any other non-player behind the bench in a suit or in the D-League. The only thing the Blazers have to lose is some of Paul Allen's pocket change. Paul spent more money moving up in the second round to draft Armon Freaking Johnson than he would spend paying Greg to rehab another one or two years. The potential payoff is far greater than Armon's potential ever was, even if Greg is never more than a 12 minute a game backup.
     
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    As an expiring contract????

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    good will with his agent? why don't we sign one of his clients who might actually play?
     
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    You mean Joel?
     
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    These two statements don't jive to well, IMO. I would think any sane fan would be beyond the line of thinking that there is a huge payoff at the end of the Greg Oden rainbow. Otherwise, you're showing thereis still that worry, the worry that we cut him and he is good elsewhere.
    Sure, it's possible. But at this point, getting him back 4 year removed from having ever played in a game, I'd say he's likely more Jamal Magloire than Oden Ohio State. And there's dozens of players like that to sign, and more probably in HS and college.
     
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    Personally, I would have cut Babbit. I think Armon Johnson is more likely to become an NBA player than Babbit. Sometimes it's best to not wait too long before you admit you made a draft mistake.
     
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    exactly. At least he can contribute.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Let's also not forget how it affects our cap space this summer. To keep Oden's Bird rights, we'll have to not renounce his cap hold, which IIRC will be around $4M. Some of you seem to view the cap space as gold; is the prospect of a someday healthy Oden worth a big chunk of it?
     
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    Armon Johnson > Nolan Smith
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I don't think there's any question we renounce him. What good are his bird rights when we're going to be ~20 million under the cap?
     
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    Why should the rest of the season be any different from the first of the season?

    Gramps...
     
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    This kind of sucks. Armon was not an NBA player, but I feel for the kid. He tried hard, he was a great bench presence and he seemed like he was a good guy. HCP: we need a highlight reel! (Focus on the glory days of summer league, 2010...)
     
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    Babbitt has one NBA skill. That's one more than Armon.
     
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    I think this was a good move, at least for PR purposes. Neither Oden or AJ were going to do anything for the Blazers this year. If Oden rehabs and gets better and plays for another team, at least the Blazers can avoid the PR problem of fans questioning why they waived Oden for no reason. They may part ways with him this summer, but they can probably do so in a much more amicable way. Cutting him now essentially sends the message that the Blazers believe his career is over. Better to take the high road and say all the right things.
     
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    He was supposed to be the next Greg Anthony. Then, we found out he had a mutated hand. Bummer. Another draft pick bites the dust.
     
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    That's my thought as well. I was primarily responding to these posts:


    People are suggesting that we don't cut Oden now so that we can retain his bird rights through this offseason and into a future offseason when (if he actually performs) those bird-rights might be of value. I'm just pointing out that in order to do so, it's going to cost us cap space this year.

    If we want to put out a low ante on his long-term health, we should renounce him and then give him a low-dollar 3-year ($1.5-2M/yr?) deal, so that we'll have new bird rights when that expires.
     
    PtldPlatypus, Feb 27, 2012
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    I had not considered that. Trade him for Nash! :)
     
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