Steve Nash: Trade to Portland would be a "terrific situation"

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I am SO glad that some of you aren't our GM.
     
  2. blazedanugz

    blazedanugz Well-Known Member

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    i cant believe some people have said they would trade batum for him......thats just............wow............
     
  3. Rhal

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    How much Value does Batum really have to the suns? Im asking because they are rebuilding mode and want to get bad contracts off there books and pick up young talent on good contracts. Batum will be making almost 10m after his new contract this year, are the suns really ready to start shelling out big cash so quickly?
    I also wonder how much they are going to value Felton. He has almost no trade value to a lot of teams but last year he showed in a run and gun system, much like the Suns have, he can be very effective. Felton might be the real piece they want if they think they can get him back into NYK shape. Same question about if they suns will want to pay him next season.
    If i'm the suns I want exp contracts young talent and draft picks plus the ability to unload my bad contracts. Thats a lot to ask for nash, so I think they'd settle for 2 of the three. Idealy i'd like to see something like http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sm7vdm with a pick thrown in but that won't top what the Suns get from orlando.
     
  4. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    That would be stupid! Nic is our second best player who is 15 YEARS YOUNGER.
     
  5. BrianFromWA

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    (I'm rusty, 17 hours ahead and have been speaking more Korean than I thought I knew...but I can't pass up a Steve Nash rumor)

    I don't know...if we're going to "go for it", at least give up Matthews so that if we don't "get it," then we have a chance to retool via (not free agency, but non-wanted contracts).

    In a fun-to-watch world, we'd roll into the playoffs with a rotation of what's below:

    And if we totally flame out, we have LMA and Frye as the only contracts on the roster (w/Batum being RFA).

    Something like http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7shvcv4

    Nash and Frye (and maybe, after March 1, Grant Hill) for Felton and Camby and Nolan Smith (they get younger at PG for cheap, trade expirings for expirings and toss Frye's contract in)
    Then Wes and Babbitt for Ray-Ray. (they get a young, cheap, pretty good SG and a Fan Favorite in Babbitt--not b/c he's white, but because Scalabrine's getting old)

    Picks/Cash/Elliott as necessary.

    Nash/Ray/Batum/Wallace/LMA with Thomas, Hill, Crawford, Frye, Przy on the bench.

    We'd be older than some Bible stories, but I'd watch. And I think we'd go far. And I think we'd rebuild this summer like the Marlins.
     
  6. roywonder07

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    Keep Batum and settle for years of mediocrity. Get Nash and possibly reach the western conference finals and maybe more? High risk, high return, I'm all for Nash on this one. Though, if we could somehow trade Wallace instead of Batum, I'd rather do that. Maybe Wallace, Felton, & nolan for Nash? And maybe get the Celtics to bite on a Ray Allen for Matthews trade? That would be fun to watch.
     
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  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Fuck it.... let's go senior citizen.
     
  8. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    You think we're contenders with Nash? No freaking way. We'll get eaten by Miami assuming we can pass the west (which we can't).
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    I don't think so. That's a pretty stiff lineup without Batum in the mix.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We're all assuming that Nate actually gives Nash the reigns and doesn't force him to run nateball.
     
  11. Rhal

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    Really depends on what we give up to get Nash. At the moment we match up well with almost every playoff team in the west and most teams in the east. We have 5 good defenders in LA/Wes/Batum/Camby/Crash. Our offensive problems lie with our horrible PG rotation so depending on what we would have to give up to fix that we could defiantly give any team a run for their money. Our D seems to lie with our offense too. When were making plays on the Offensive end we come out with really good D pressure, but when were not then our D can be just as bad as our O.
    Best case scenario is Felton starts playing like a borderline all star he was last year but since the chances of that seem rather slim some of our defenders are going to have to go which then makes the defensive matchups intresting depending on who we have left.
    Second best case scenario is http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7455smr We get Nash/Fry, Clips get a SG they need in Mathews, and Phx gets Felton/Bledso/Foyd. Phx would also get a pick from either us or the clips
    Phx dumps a bad contract while taking on an interesting prospect in Bledsoe gets over 10m in exp contracts and gets a first rounder from either us or the clips. We can even expand it to take in Hakeem Warris by sending out Babbit/Smith. I say both of those instead of Ewill because we are overpaying for Nash anyway might as well not get fully R@%#$ in the process. Clips defiantly want in on this because they need a SG who can shoot and defend desperately which is about all that Mathews can do. Putting Mathews next to an elite PG means he doesn't have to handle the ball much and make those bone headed plays.

    Seeing as I don't think that trade is going to happen we either overpay for Nash and hope for the best or we stand pat and probably are a one and done team.
     
  12. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Felton was never a borderline all-star. Above average? Sure, but that's it.

    17.3 PER and inflated stats playing under D'Antoni do not equal borderline all-star.
     
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    I remember many pundits last year talking about the possibility of Felton as an all-star.
     
  14. Rhal

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    He almost made it onto the allstar team (a lot of analysts predicted him as a wild card slot)last year with those inflated stats which makes his play last year borderline all starish with the knicks.
     
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    Yes he is and yes he does. He is arguably the best pure PG in the NBA and he's leading the league in assists. He would make all of our players better and we'd finially have a PG who can shoot. We have a chance to make it to the second round without Nash. WITH Nash, we can get to WCF and even if we lose there, that will still be the most fun we've had in 12 years.

    We'd get a high level Nash for two to three years if we wanted. He has shown no sign of decline this season. If the Heat are winning the next ten titles, then there is no bright future for the Blazers. Nash wants one more shot at a title and he would give us his A+ game to make it happen. Remember, he was in the WCF just two years ago. He's jealous his best friend just won a title. He wants one now.
    Exactly. Hanging onto Batum instead of Nash takes us nowhere. Batum is a fine player but he's not lifting us ou of mediocrity right now.
    I'm 37. I'm not a senior citizen. He's not that old.
    Even if we lost to the Heat in the Finals, I'd rather that than being out in the first round or gasp not even making the playoffs (still a high possibility)
     
  16. KingSpeed

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    In the East where there weren't a lot of good PGs at the time. Not like the West with Nash, Parker, Paul, and Williams.
     
  17. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    In the NBA, 37 is a senior citizen. Sorry Eric.
     
  18. Rhal

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    Just because one side has a better quality of player doesn't make the other sides guys any less of an allstar.
     
  19. KingSpeed

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    I just don't like the term senior citizen even in NBA years. These are still young guys. It's not like Nash can't move or something. He's playing great and his level of play would go up when he got here and realized he had another chance at a title.
     
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    But Felton WASN'T an All Star even in the weak conference.
     

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