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  1. MickZagger

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    You think Roy was our best player coming into this season? He had a 13.9 PER last year on his bum knees.
     
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    Was he better than Kevin Love?

    Better than Durant/Westbrook?

    Hell, people were bitching about Roy for never playing defense back then, and although some people have apparently forgot, they were bitching about Nate's ISOs for Roy or Outlaw at the end of games.
     
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    I'm saying you can only lose so many All-NBA players, and #1 overall draft picks, and stay at a high level.

    Adelman has a legitimate MVP candidate, or so I'm told, and he's not even in the playoffs as of right now. Plus, he's starting Martell Webster. I know you're a big Minny fan, but Adelman's coaching is hilarious at this point. Sitting Beaseley or Williams and starting Martell? LMAO
     
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    McMillan hit his apex with the Blazers in that 08/09 season.
     
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    Well, he lost 1 All-NBA player and the #1 pick doesnt really matter because he was never on the court.

    If you find successful coaching hilarious, he is I guess. Adelman's giving the Wolves a taste of winning, with players that come from a culture of losing at the NBA level. No one has clinched a playoff spot, so no one is in the playoffs as of right now.

    Here's a question for you. Would you trade Minnesota's roster for ours?
     
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    He lost Oden soon after, and Roy's knees started to disintegrate in 2009-10. He went from 2nd team All-NBA to 3rd team, and his PER dropped to 21. Still the Blazers managed to win 51 games with all of that happening to the team.

    How did Adelman do in Houston once he lost Yao?
     
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    You're such a Minnesota fan. Again, I get it. You're the same age as Kevin Love, but at some point, can't you just admit your allegiance is with Minny? You were making excuses for them losing to New Orleans tonight, and you post more about the Wolves these days than you do the Blazers.

    Come clean! :)
     
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    Well he took the Lakers to 7 games without Yao for game 5,6 and 7. With Brooks, Scola and Artest running the show. Last year he got fired after 43-39 season and not one player with a PER of 20+
     
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    I'm not a Blazer fan, its pretty obvious I want whats best for the Blazers. But the argument here has came down to Adelman vs. McMillan. Lets not get sidetracked.

    Would you trade rosters with Minnesota's?
     
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    He got fired because he missed the playoffs two straight years. Now Kevin McHale steps in and is punking Adelman with a worse roster.

    Plus, he should learn to coach his players to be more efficient. Once Roy fell apart, LMA was coached up to a 20+ PER player by Nate.
     
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    Absolutely. Minnesota is chock full of young lottery talent. Too bad their coach is holding them back. Nate would be perfect with a young team like Minny. Look what he did with a much worse, yet younger, roster in '08-09.
     
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    He missed the playoffs 1 year with a better winning % than McMillan's going to have this year and no All-Stars on that roster.

    I'm sure McHale taught Lowry everything he knew about being a PG.
     
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    He has an MVP candidate this year, just lost his starting PG, and wasn't in the playoffs prior to losing his starting PG.

    Plus, he has three #2 overall picks that he keeps on the bench for some strange reason.
     
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    The Blazer are 'chock' full of proven veteran talent that many pundit early in the year predicted could do well in the West.

    Daryl Morey got it right when he fired Adelman. It was time to go, bring in new ideas and philosophies. The Blazers have been riding this McMillan thing a couple years too long. He's lost the team, his ideas suck and are stale. This is the NBA, its a coaching carousel. Get someone fresh in there.
     
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    Derrick Williams is perfect in the role that he's in right now. Energy off the bench. He'll figure it out as he learns to play a new position (SF) and Beasley is super talented, but a knucklehead who makes horrible decisions to shoot and doesn't play defense.
     
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    Why isn't Minny trying hard to get Deron Williams? He would be a perfect fit in Minny? They could offer Rubio, Beasly and Ridnour for him and that's actually a decent talent. Maybe they would give the Utah pick as well.
     
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    Three 15 PER or less players (one who is injury-prone, another who is a headcase) for an All-NBA player? That would be a fleecing by Minnesota.
     
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    Sounds like a coaching issue to me. Also, how is Beasley in the "perfect" role? He's having the worst season of his career, and his first sub-15 PER season.
     
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    Evan Turner is starting to show why he was POY and the #2 pick of the draft. So smooth.
     
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    Well many believe Rubio has a very high ceiling. Ridnour is a decent pick-up as well. Beasly is expiring so it really isn't a big deal. They could ask for Minny's (Utah pick) as well; which may pan out to be a nice first rounder.
     

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