4 years from now?! lol. so you're trading Aldridge to START your rebuild in 4 years. yeah. awesome job. brilliant. It really is. A pick 4 years from now. so stupid
If some team backloads a deal for Asik, Jerry isn't matching. For a backup C. Another option is more mediocrity. Seriously, IF they were to deal Aldridge, they'd want a rebuilding package. you are offering mediocrity packages. no.
I trade Aldridge for a player that puts up basically the same numbers, a solid young center and a solid young PG. I trade Matthews for a potential lotto pick in 4 years. You have to look big picture. Even if Charlotte somehow makes the playoffs in 2016, you are still adding a first round pick.
These posts gave me the idea, plus the Bulls and Magic are talking a similar package for Dwight Howard who is better than LMA.
You are not going to rebuild overnight. You're going to want your own picks to be good ones, too, so you might get lucky and land a pick like Rose.
except in those instances, people mention a high pick now, not 4 years from now, which helps to rebuild now. They also referenced a high ceiling young player, Derrickk Williams, Favors. Asik is a young Joel przybilla, basically. Very useful for sure. Not the high ceiling player those deals mentioned. And the former all star, meh. But at least he isn't 30, and paid very handsomely the next 4 years. The package you are offering does nothing to help a team rebuild.
if we want our picks to be good, then we don't go out and trade for Boozer and Deng! We dump LA for a young player who will make sure our pick is a good one.
This is so hypocritical of you MM. You want to trade our best player for "solid" players? Solid players get you where this team is now. Damn what a stupid thing to propose.
QQQ Guys like Chamberlain and Jabbar are going to win championships because they are truly dominant players. LaMarcus Aldridge is not in their category. If you think he is, then you don't know much about NBA basketball. My point was that even NBA superstars get traded--so why should we think we can't trade Aldrige, who is certainly not a superstar? I hope that clears things up for you. Why? Aldridge is not an MVP, so why should we get one back in return? You seem to be all flummoxed by the MVP examples I cited, and have missed the point entirely. See above. Of course not. You don't go into a rebuilding mode and get better the very next year. It takes a couple of years to get back into the race. But if you're saying that teams NEVER get better after trading their best player, then you're just being silly.
We can't change this team around without lots of draft picks, which is what we could get for Aldridge.
Hogwash. According to you, Joel is a better player than Aldridge. We should be able to get somebody almost at Joel's level to build around.
There's two things I don't get in this thread. A) The eagerness of some to dump Aldridge who has just entered his prime and is a fine second tier star on a very reasonable contract (plus he's always been healthy -- knock on wood) and B) The utter hostility being displayed by some people towards others for daring to bring it up. LaMarcus is as close to untouchable as a player can usually get -- now -- but it won't always be this way. If the team can get really proactive and quickly retool this roster and surround him with enough guard and wing talent and a capable rebounding/defensive center over the next couple of years then we'll be thrilled that we kept this guy. If the team can't regain some kind of competitive edge and get back on a winning track by the end of the 2013-2014 season, then they should try to leverage Aldridge (and probably Batum if he's still here at that point) to get whatever kind of liquid assets they can then we'll see what a real rebuild looks like. This whole thing should be a talk about timing, not should we or shouldn't we.
Re: QQQ PER is fine. I'm all for good PER. But it doesn't mean Aldridge is a superstar. You should know that just by watching him game in and game out. And you are "aware" that you still haven't backed up your claim that all the GMs who traded superstars got fired for it? I'm still waiting for that . . .
Re: QQQ http://hoopedia.nba.com/index.php?title=Philadelphia_76ers You know Dr. Jack came to Portland the year after, which means he was fired. Are you happy now?
Re: QQQ And getting back on this "PER" and leader quality not being the same; you are absolutely correct. Just having a good PER isn't enough, but proving that you work hard every off-season building another part of your game, bulk and strength is a sign of leadership. He wants to be the best, therefor he works hard being the best. Yes Aldridge doesn't have that "Killer instinct" like a Roy, but I remembered Drexler having that same trait. Aldridge is way better now than Sheed was back in the days we made it to the WCF twice. Those teams really didn't have a leader either. So I don't think this thread has any teeth. It's just one fan that thinks we can't win with Aldridge and the many others saying how silly that sounds.
I was just having fun? Is this thread real? Oh, I wouldn't deal Aldridge unless we got back something nice. Again, Aldridge to GS for Curry, Udoh and Klay Thompson would be the kind of deal to look at.