Zombie 2012 NBA Draft

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  1. RoyToy

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    I thought you hated Barnes?
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Someone else stated that as well? I wonder where and when I said that? If so, I have changed my tune since the combine, which I was waiting for
     
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    I am surprised at all of the Barnes supporters on the board. He seemed to have a hard time getting his own shot at Carolina. I can't imagine he is going to be able to be very effective in the pros. If he is there with our pick at 10ish, then it's a no brainer, but higher scares me.

    I remember from you, and a few other times stating something similar. His jumping ability at the combine all of a sudden changes his ability to get off his shot? Regardless, it's not a bad thing to change opinions.
     
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    OK...but what is the 2nd dimension? Is he going to improve on defense? As a passer/playmaker? A creating his own shot?

    What I see is a guy with talent, but only one (albeit valuable) NBA level skill.
     
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    For me it was a few things. He tested out athletically way better than most thought, and some scouts have attributed his numbers to the NC system.
     
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    Barnes is actually a decent defender, and has the tools to be pretty darn good. He is a very good passer already.
     
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    Actually, most of the "experts" consider his playmaking a major weakness. To paraphrase DraftExpress, his assists-per-40 number is among the worst for top SF prospects.

    He does, however, seem to have the tools to be a good defender.
     
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    You said you didn't like him because he wouldn't be able to create his own shot
     
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    Clearly his 40 inch vertical will help him dribble better to the basket and create for himself and others.
     
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    Yeah I definitely put Drummond over him. Drummond is a year and a half younger, produced equally on the glass, comparably in scoring, and definitively better in blocks. Hes the better physical specimen as well.

    Leonard seems to have impressed physically but also I think he interviewed well at the combine. Scouts may be concerned that Drummond has no drive or passion. Things like Drummond being such a god awful FT shooter could indicate that he doesn't work that hard.
     
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    Does Drummond shooting an NCAA low 30% from the line scare anyone?

    I was shocked to see Royce White at <50% and Henson at only 51%. And we all know about Wroten.
     
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    Joe Freeman ‏@BlazerFreeman
    #Blazers have announced predraft workout schedule for this week. Will hold two workouts Wednesday and one Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
     
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    Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes
    In addition to Wed. pre-draft workout, the Blazers have scheduled 10 AM workouts for 6/14, 6/15 and 6/16.
     
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    Passing is different than play making
     
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    I really hate these these type of stats. Play making skills may very well be a weakness for him, (I have no idea) but I hope they are basing their assessment on more than the assist-per 40 stat. There could be lots of reason for this low number. (Like playing with a PG who controlled the game well enough to of had 17 assists in one game)
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Sounds like the promise Rives received could have came from the Hornets at #10.

    I wonder how this makes Gordon feel? That's an extremely high pick for a backup, don't ya think?

    LINK
     
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    Right now, Drummond is an F-22 with a 4 year old sitting in the pilot's seat. He is the rebirth of Daryl Dawkins. Is there any player in this draft who has a bigger chasm between his ceiling and his floor?

    In other words: he scares the bejeezus out of me.
     

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