Zombie 2012 NBA Draft

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by B-Roy, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    I'd buy this argument if he had brought in a new scouting staff.
     
  2. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Oh ya, I couldn't agree with you more
     
  3. oldmangrouch

    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    My unqualified opinion: if we draft Ross, he will be starting by the end of the year. I may be dead wrong - but I like that kid.
     
  4. craigehlo

    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    I think any SG we draft will be starting by the end of the year.
     
  5. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    I would agree unless they decide to put Batum there
     
  6. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    I'm a die-hard baseball fan, and I didn't realize Oakland still had a Major League team. Good for them.

    Go Giants.

    Carry on.
     
  7. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Bahahahaha. Oh rivalries.......
     
  8. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    A die hard baseball fan at least knows what teams are in the Major Leagues. Would you credit a supposed die hard NBA fan who didn't know Portland had a team?
     
  9. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    We have a team!?
     
  10. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    How could you, of anyone, not fire back with this?

    Q: What do you get when you combine all 40 San Francisco Giants with 40 lesbians? A: Eighty people that dont do dick!
     
  11. BLAZINGGIANTS

    BLAZINGGIANTS Well-Known Member

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    Wow. That sarcasm just flew over your head.
     
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    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Hahahahaha
     
  13. Further

    Further Guy

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    Draftexpress has the warriors taking Sullinger. I just don't buy it. I think Sullinger keeps falling until middle of the first round.
     
  14. Blazer Freak

    Blazer Freak Superstar in the Making

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    So Fez has now gone from Kendall Marshall and Beal to T-Rob to Dion Waiters? This has to be some sort of record for alternating man crushes...

    I still think Quincy Miller is a great pick anywhere after the mid-20's. Obviously if he is there in the 2nd, it's a damn steal as there is nearly no risk involved, but I'd still take him with a late first. The main concerns about his knee seem to be that he just doesn't have it at 100% yet. A torn ACL these days is a lot less disconcerting than a shorter leg than the other (Sullinger) or something along those lines.

    The guy is a lottery talent and would be drafted as such if he had stayed an extra year. If the cost to move back into the late-first, after we draft at 6 and 11, is only cash considerations and a future 2nd, I think you do it and take a flier on the kid.

    Personally, I thik this draft has a ton of starter (and potential star) throughout the draft pool. However, once you hit the 20's range, the talent pool become divided into two tiers:

    Tier 1: High Potential guys (Quincy Miller, Royce White) who have big question marks (Tweener, Injury Concern, etc.) If teams and these players can figure these things out I see a lot of late-first steals and potential contributors in the 2nd round.

    Tier 2: Low-Potential/Ceiling but talented players. Here you've got Crowder and other players who seem to have hit their ceilings in college but can still turn into solid contributors.

    Tier 1 Players are people you can trade back into the first and take a flier one. Something I think we really should look to do as we are in this "talent acquisition" phase. Tier 2 are mostly targets with our second-rounders.
     
  15. Blazer Freak

    Blazer Freak Superstar in the Making

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    Sully may have the athleticism of a rock, but I still think he is going to be a pretty darn good post player in the NBA. I'd love to put him next to LA either as a potential starter or first big man off the bench that could swing to the 5 spot.

    And to think he was thought to be the 1st pick in last year's draft...he should have never went back to OSU.
     
  16. MickZagger

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    He's just trying to cover all his bases. Ya know, so in a couple years from now he can go back and be like, "see we shoulda drafted this player....This is why Fez knows more than the Olshey".
     
  17. Reep

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    I question his ability to get off his shot in the NBA, but have to admit he would be solid next to LMA. He is more the banger, but they could actually switch back and forth because of Sullinger's ability to hit the outside shot too. It could be a real matchup issue for other teams. For some reason when I see him I think more Sean May than Kevin Love.
     
  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I could live with that. Total boom-bust type of draft class, but if they get it they both could be dominant types of players.
     
  19. Reep

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    I looked up some of the measurements from other solid low post players from the past. Sully actually has better vert numbers than Boozer and Milsap. Maybe he is just suffering by comparison to other athletes in this draft.
     
  20. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Forget his vertical for a second, his lane agility and speed tests are what make him so shaky athletically. He'll be able to score, but who will he guard?
     

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