Would you trade #11 for Bostons 21 & 22 picks?

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Would you trade pick #11 for picks 21&22?

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    You don't rest it with me. Who realistically at #11 is better than any two of the players I mentioned?
     
  2. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I honestly don't know enough about the guys that are being talked about that late in the draft, but Waiters seems like a pretty good prospect (if we don't go the route of Lillard) or maybe Ross. I would stay away from the bigs though. I'd rather use some of our cap space on a big.
     
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    From the mid to late lotto is going to be unpredictable but there will be a few slippers. This is where you want to be and can totally understand why teams in the 20's are trying to trade up.

    But answer my question, would you take any of those players at #11?
     
  4. MickZagger

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    ....lol, how do you know there won't be any Faried's in this years draft? Tony Wroten is a guy that will be available late 1st or early 2nd that I think has star potential.

    If GM's around the league had the consensus that Faried was going to be a solid ball player he wouldn't have slipped late in the 1st like he did.
     
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    More than likely if you make the trade, you do it draft day, after guys are drafted, not now. So you have the opportunity to make sure a top guy does not slip. You determine that, and then, say, draft Rivers for them, and trade him for the rights to...I dunno, White and Wroten.
     
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    Looking at the list of players I think it's pretty obvious. Do you think Nicholson has the potential of a Faried, at least in terms of impact? His severe lack of lateral quickness tells me he wont. I could be wrong, but I rarely am. :devilwink:
     
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    If we aren't high on anyone available at #11 I'd definetely consider it. I would only do this on draft day depending on how picks 1-10 play out though.
     
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    No, it's why I would trade back. Players spotted at 11 don't excite me. Sounds like you feel the same, no?
     
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    This is why you don't do this trade.

    Why wouldn't you take them at #11? Because the better player and prospect is sitting there at #11. If this team had the core of, say, the 2008 Blazers I think you could sacrifice the better prospect for depth but you can't afford to do this when you're in need of EVERYTHING outside a starting PF.

    The overall talent level is right where the Blazers were back in 2002-2003.

    Quality over quantity!
     
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    But what player at 11 would you take over 2 of the guys I mentioned? Realistically
     
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    You can take a number of guys in that area that are vastly better prospects. You have to swing for the fences instead of taking guys you think could eventually contribute off the bench.

    Being in the #9/12 range you're going to have a chance at a slipper.

    Another angle: if you really wanted that #2 pick the #6/#11 will get it done -- #6/21/22 wont.
     
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    LoL, you rarely are?

    There's not a player in the draft you haven't said you like. So the odds are pretty good. You should blog.
     
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    Fucking sue me if I like Beal, Robinson, Barnes, Marshall and MKG. I focus on players that we have a chance on, whether they slip or have to trade up for, that have a chance to be major impact players.

    You're setting the bar pretty damn low with your lust of Nicholson.
     
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    Again, name a player that realistically could slip to 11 that would be better than two pics in the early twenties
     
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    ....and Waiters, you liked Lillard for a week, Drummond, PJIII, T Jones. You've at some point said you wanted every player in the lottery.

    I think there's a couple guys late in the 1st that can be difference makers. Nicholson, White and Wroten.
     
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    Do you have to act like you know everything and are the greatest scout ever? It's quite annoying.
     
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    I think there might be a shocker on draft night. There always seems to be one guy who slips and if we have the 11th we could be in a good position to pick up someone that wouldn't normally be there.
     
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    A SG will be there at 11 that won't be there at 20. Rivers, Ross, or Waiters.

    And don't forget about Lamb. He is dropping but he is still pretty good.
     
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    i agree that you would only do this deal on draft night but i don't think the difference in talent by dropping back 10 spots in THIS draft is all that much. most of the time i would never consider this kind of trade, but this is a DEEP draft, not a top heavy draft as already mentioned. I don't think zeller, sullinger, or waiters are all that much better prospects then wroten or white.
     

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