Zombie 2012 NBA Draft

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    I'd be cool with this result. Lamb has dropped on my board some. He appears to be somewhat dumb and/or immature, but you have to like his upside.
     
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    "Don't be fooled by his sophomore year"

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    Barnes AND Lamb when we have huge needs at PG and C? I would not like that when I see other guys as equal BPA's at those draft spots, maybe one, but not both
     
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    Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
    Using Synergy Situational Stats to compare the draft's best guard prospects: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Situational-Statistics-the-2012-Guard-Crop-4002 (Beal, Lillard, Waiters, Rivers, etc)

    Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
    We're not going to talk about specifics of red-flags until after guys drop. Too many different opinions from teams/doctors about conditions.

    Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
    One team's doctor might consider a player completely untouchable based on their physical. Another might say its not an issue long term.
     
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    "If athleticism and attitude could produce points, Kidd-Gilchrist would probably be a top-15 NBA player as a rookie. Unfortunately for MKG, the NBA is a league where most players require a defined skill to make a big impact. Kidd-Gilchrist is a sure-fire NBA rotation player simply because of his combination of strength, speed, hustle and work ethic. But I don’t see him being a star unless he finds a niche offensively. He definitely will make an impact in the league, but he is at risk of being unfairly labeled a bust – a la Marvin Williams – if a team uses a top 5 pick on him in what many “experts” are calling an excellent draft class."

    Glad to see someone else feels the same way I do about MKG.
     
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    PG can be addressed through FA and C is something that the draft should almost never be relied upon to fill.
     
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    Maybe and maybe not, the available C's that we have a realistic chance at and of not seriously overy paying are few anf they are not that good, same with PG's unless we "might" get Dragic who seems more likely to go back to HOU and if we wanted him it would likely be a BIG overpay. Two wings in this draft is not smart IMO UNLESS we have trades lines up to address other needs.
     
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    I think as a fan base, we sould all start thinking in terms of multiple year retool, or whatever they are calling it? Portland needs to add talent. If that means drafting both Beal and Lamb because they are the most talented on the board when we pick, then do it. Address "needs" with short term fixes. Then trade players at position we are deep at to fill fill holes when you get good enough to matter
     
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    We need to draft BPA right now. Not need. Picking Zeller or Leonard at 11 would be a massive mistake when there are other players on the board that could be something special.
     
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    I agree with this, however from everything I have read there are "tiers" in this draft and it is VERY likely when we pick it's a coin flip between perhaps 2 or 3 players which one is BPA, if that's the case (which I think it is) then IMO you pick position of need. However if the drafting staff think there is a clearly superior player then you go with him regardless of position - I just don't think that is likely when talking about BOTH of our picks and having them be wings.
     
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    From that radio show:

    Rivers was elite in high school but just good in college. Lacks athletic ability and size to make next step. Comparable to OJ Mayo. Very confident player. Could be a tough teammate if he doesnt adjust.
     
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    Olshey said when he was hired that his process was tiers. Then said if multiple players from the top tier remaining were on the board when we picked, he would pick for position.
     
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    Ford continued:

    Davis will be a mix of Duncan and Garnett. System and talent level of team doesnt show how good he is.
     
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    Good info, thanks.

    Olshey likes those great high school players though
     
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    More Ford:

    Beal, about 70% of GM's have him at pick 2. Likes MKG a little better. Beautiful shooting stroke. Shined more when Donovan gave him more freedom at the end of the season. Compares to Eric Gordon
     
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    and this is where perhaps "your" opinion differrs from many if not most of the mocks I have seen that have Zeller or Leonard being picked at the area of the #11 pick, I'll take their opinion over yours. BTW I am not saying we should take either one at #11 but your saying it "would be a massive mistake" seems out of whack given that many mocks rate them being picked there - they may very well be BPA there
     
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    exactly, it all comes down to what players go in what tiers, and that can certainly differ which is why we go thru this process! However saying a C might not be BPA at #11 and a huge mistake I think is not a fair statement given what many if not most of the mocks are suggesting
     
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    I am assuming like me, it's his opinion not to take a white center in the lottery. Hopefully Olshey and company know their history
     

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