Minnesota wants Batum @ 11.25M a year

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  1. Ghost Pepper

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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    My point is don't you think a player like Harden in a year is money well spent, cause he's actually earned it with consistent play vs Mr. whishy washy Batum? I'd rather have a player that brings it every night than banking a large amount of cash on a player that has never reached the next level in several years...
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Harden is going to get a max offer from someone next year.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Um, what? He's a good shooter, but his game relies on his quickness and beating defenders off the dribble. I can't wait to see LMA and Lils run a PnR.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Joe Freeman ‏@BlazerFreeman
    According to @JerryZgoda Nicolas Batum will fly to Minny tonight to talk with Timberwolves.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    I think Lillard is going to be a very crafty PG, and honestly Williams ready to go with his aggressive play let's me worry less about losing Batum!
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Harden's PER by years.

    14
    16
    21

    Plus, he's not a starter. After seeing Miami shut him down, I'd be nervous paying him as a franchise player.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Any chance PA could have Batum put on the No Fly list?
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Batum on a good team like Miami, LA, Boston, Chicago wouldn't be a starter either..... Further.... Harden will be starting in a year for some team.... I hope it's us, although I think Williams barring injury could really surprise some people!
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Hope Batum enjoys his vacation to Minnesota.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Batum would most certainly start for the Lakers, and probably Miami as well once Battier finally loses a step. He wouldn't start over Deng or Paul Pierce, but then again, Harden doesn't start over Thabo Sefalosha, and has only had one season where he's averaged more than 27mpg.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Pinwheel Empire ‏@pinwheelempire
    Minny reportedly to offer batum 4/$45m. Blazers almost certainly match. Fair value for nic. #ripcity #blazers
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    slam dunk, and well worth it
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    can live with it. will be positive pressure for Batum.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    I really don't think Batum is worth this kind of money, but if we do somehow get Hibbert we'll be over the cap anyway. The only alternative, in my mind, would be to do a sign-and-trade. Or we could throw more money at him and hopefully get him to wait until after Hibbert is sign-sealed-and delivered.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Not enough info yet.

    At 4/45, I'm not going to scream if we match. It seems a bit high, but with GMs going cray cray (to coin a phrase) and doing things like offering Crash 4/40 then I think it's below market value.

    BUT, if MIN would give up D. Williams and a future pick or two then it's worth seeing if our 8-9M left over after Hibbert could get us Asik or Ilyasova. I'd need to know what Olshey's heard about their value, willingness to sign and ability of team to match...but I think I'd rather have D.Williams and Ilyasova or Asik than Batum and a shot at Freeland. Chauncey for our "Room" provision (~2.75M, iirc) gives us a stable of bigs, some young wings, Lillard/Mr. Big Shot at PG and T.J. Houshman.....Houshmayday...Houshmenable.....

    CHAMPIONSHIP!

    Lillard/Billups/Nolan
    Wes/EWill/Barton
    D.Williams/Claver
    LMA/Ilyasova? or Asik?
    Hibbert/Leonard/Thomas + MIN's future first?
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Another option is if IND matches, we tell Mr. Ndaiye that we're going to match unless he gets on the phone and swindles MIN for us. Williams/Darko/1sts or the like.

    If we can do that, and then work with HOU to do LMA for Scola+T.Jones or White and a future 1st...we effectively trade LMA and Batum for Scola, Williams, T.Jones, Darko and 2-3 first rounders coming up and still have bunches of cap space.

    Lillard/Nolan
    Wes/Ewill/Barton
    D.Williams/Claver
    Scola/T.Jones or R.White
    Leonard/Thomas

    + 2-3 firsts and 16M or so in cap space. SUCKFEST! Lotto, BABEEEE! But I'd watch.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    just to put this to bed

    THE BLAZERS CAN NOT DO A SIGN AND TRADE WITH BATUM AFTER HE SIGNS AN OFFER SHEET

    per larry coons comprehensive faq

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q43
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    But he cannot sign an offer sheet until July 11. So it's staying awake until at least then.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Yes, and?

    This is how this kinda stuff goes:

    Batum gets the dog and pony show from Minny.

    For some stupid-ass reason, Nik gets the bright idea that the T-Pups and absurdly cold Minny is where he wants to be.

    This info gets back to the Blazers. They ring up Nik's agent and say, "hey, yo, so Nik is outta here?",

    Agent: Yeah, I told you fools. I was gonna fuck you up real good cause I don't like your smell.

    Blazers: Uh, whatever, we have never met, but regardless, does Nik not want 5 guaranteed years, because that is what we are offering.

    Agent: Go to hell

    Blazers: Ok, well we can still get Nik 5 guaranteed years by working out a sign-and-trade with Minny. We are more than willing to see if we can do something.

    Agent: Go to hell

    Blazers: We will certainly be sending a certified letter direct to Nik Batum and a copy to the league office so that everyone is fully informed of what is going on here.

    Agent: That won't be needed, I am going to call Minny right away and get this started.
     
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    Re: Minnesota wants Batum @ ~12M a year

    Trade away an all-star for an overpaid vet and late first rounders? Horrible idea.

    The Batum S&T for Derrick Williams idea would be great, I'd do that, but don't think Minny would bite.
     
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