Minnesota: full of shit (confirmed)

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    griffin just signed for 5/95, kobe is making 26 million this year etc, etc

    the MAX deal isnt what it used to be i guess
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    his agent IMO has made an ass out of himself and IMO put Nic in a weaker position
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    griffin signed for Derrick Rose max, K*be's grandfathered in from 2 CBA's ago because he's been 'extending' his contract each time, and the max for a player 6yrs or fewer in the league starts at 13.6M.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Minne can't lose, in some respects. Even if we end up keeping Batum, they know they've tainted our #2 player and making him an unhappy camper. They don't really have the ability to acquire him without giving up something solid, or by suckering another team to enter this equation. So they teased him, and now he's upset with us.

    In the end.... all they'll say is that we wouldn't work with them to make it happen.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    I disagree on the "tainted" stuff. If Nic's get a solid offer from POR he will IMO eventually be happy. Nate is gone, bunch of new players comin in and likely a coach that will utulize his and others talents better,.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Zgoda is a tool. Why wouldnt philly like immediate cap relief and derrick williams? They wouldnt have to eat the guaranteed portions of miller or martell and dont need darko. They have hawes and vucevic.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Exactly, I was under the impression that the max a 4 year player could sign for was like 14.5 per year or something like that.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    They're going after Korver now, does this seal the deal that they are full of shit and not going to offer Batum anything.

    @ajchawks: Source says #Hawks had interest in #Bulls F Kyle Korver but he's likely headed to Minnesota in trade
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Minny's hosed. And they won't make an offer as it would be stupid. Olshey would match and they know it. Batum will be coming back to PDX at a more affordable rate. And don't tell me he could sign the QO. There is no way that would happen.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Minny also has Love and his ego and unrest at not being in the playoffs to deal with. If things don't work out very well for them this coming yr and next it could all blow up in their face
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    If after all this and Batum ends up signing for the QO he should fire his agent ASAP.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    This is the hold up IMO...Until MIN offers up Derrick Williams there will not be a S&T...

    I'd be pissed if I was Olshey....You offer a contract that you cannot or seem unwilliing to put on paper b\c you know we may call you on it, then you ask for POR help...POR HELP to do a S&T and then for that help you want to give them a bunch of crap (Rid w\2yrs left, Webster, Wes Johnson) in return for doing YOU a favor and getting the best player in the deal.....

    That is not how this works, if you want POR to do you a favor and do a S&T then give them something they want\can build on.....Ridnour is not that, niether is Webster or Wes Johnson or a draft pick that will be in the late teens\early twenties of a more than likely weak draft....That is an insult, especially to a division rival....

    And where is Batum's agent in all of this? If I were Olshey I would be leaning on him right now....You want your client to get that big contract? You want to get him to where he wants to go? Then tell Kahn\MIN to stop screwing around and make the deal with POR....

    Right now the leverage is moving towards POR each day, b\c they don't have to do anything...The only way MIN can gain some leverage is to make all those moves\cuts and sign Batum to the offer sheet, which screws up a lot of thier other planned moves...

    MIN is being greeedy right now, Olshey should tell them to go pound sand....
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    What's your idea of a solid offer?

    You don't just give Batum $11.5 mil if you're the Blazers. As a match, sure you consider it. But you don't just outright offer it.

    You offer him $8-9mil. And that's still not going to make him happy.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Batum should be mad at Minny, getting his panties all wet and then not giving it up to seal the deal.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    The guy has obviously been sold a bill of goods by his agent. He has an inflated self worth and I don't think he's going to be happy with anything under 11 or 11.5 a year. There's no way he's worth that, so we should really be looking at other options to trade him.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    That's what I'm saying (maybe not the trade part, but the rest).

    Whether Minne makes an official offer or not, they've told Nic their value to him.

    So they've already tainted him for us in that respect. At $9mil, I don't bat an eye. But $11.50mil? Makes you think......
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    5 yrs at 45-50 mil, oreferably close to 45 mil
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Perfectly said. My thoughts exactly. Especially about his agent. "You can't offer a player that will be coming off the bench behind Nic and KLove? How much do you really want my client"
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    just saying, the max aint what it used to be
     
    3RA1N1AC, Jul 11, 2012
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Joan Nielsen: I'm going on the record: When the Timberwolves decide to give up basketball and become a boy band, I predicted it after the Budinger trade. 1 minute ago

    LMAO!
     
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