Minnesota: full of shit (confirmed)

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  1. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Maybe we'll see how good of a salesman Olshey really is? ... assuming Nidaye (sic?) will let him actually talk with him.
     
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  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Actually no, they just have a basement (aka: a cave)
     
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  3. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Awesome - score for you!
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    I think the conventional wisdom about not paying Batum on potential is that he was never used the right way in Portland (See Jermaine Oneal). In another situation he'd thrive and earn the $11-$12 mil that's being thrown around. Apparently other teams see this potential and are willing to invest to see it... maybe.
     
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  5. BLAZINGGIANTS

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    That's where they shoot photos/video of all that nasty porn.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    I just think in the new CBA, it's much more dangerous to take that kind of risk. You better be damn sure that a guy is going to live up to a contract like that before you get him to sign on the dotted line.
     
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  7. Duckhook

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Totally agree with you. But with the amnesty do-over maybe some GMs are willing to gamble like this?
     
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  8. ironcrotch

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    You can amnesty contracts that were signed during the old CBA. Any new deals this year do not qualify for amnesty. Unless you're talking about amnestying old contracts so they can sign new bad ones.
     
    ironcrotch, Jul 11, 2012
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?


    Nope, I was uninformed on old verses new amnesties. Thanks IC.
     
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  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    I just think there's a greater chance that a GM lives to regret signing Batum to this deal, rather than Nic actually living up to it.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    So that's why Batum averaged 7ppg with Steve Nash guarding him in the playoffs? I remember it totally differently from you; the coaches begged Batum to be aggressive and attack but he was playing passive and timid.

    The job of a coach is to get the TEAM to maximize their output, not maximize the output of one individual player. If a player can't excel for the good of the team he's a role playing specialist.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    That was so painful to watch.
     
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  13. BlazerCaravan

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    That was also nearly three years ago.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    That series was ugly! Nate tried to isolate Nic on Nash but the spacing was atrocious.

    I wont miss Nate-ball.
     
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  15. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    And that's why it's all bullshit and Nic is just making excuses. The only thing McMillan did which I would consider stupid was limiting his minutes and messing with his rhythm. I highly doubt that he forced Nic to play passive basketball or camp out on the perimeter.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Honestly, I don't have much faith that Batum could have posted up on Nash any better last season.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Fair enough.

    What's interesting to me is that some consider the $11mil an investment in potential improvement, when Nic's value now based on consistent, never improving behavior, is $11mil according to Wages of Wins. Even playing the same Nic more minutes ups that value.

    I'm all for getting a deal, and we've been successful with LMA on that front. I'm also fine with investing in potential improvement (again, LMA proved us right in the investment so far). I look at LMA when he was 23 and think back to the folks who thought he'd never toughen up or work down low, that he's just a rich man's Channing Frye. Improvement between the ages of 23 and 26 seems almost inevitiable in people who show initial talent.

    So I just don't see how you don't give Nic a chance. If I'm Minny, I'd much rather sign Nic over Roy... that Roy signing seems too sentimental and risky to me.
     
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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    I come in peace.

    Apparently it's being reported the Wolves are finalizing a trade for Kyle Korver, but at the same time a good friend of Korver's told me that Korver's agent has been told he'll end up in LA or Portland.

    Sounds like part of a three team trade, or at the very least an attempt for the Wolves to clear more cap space because Korver's only guaranteed 500k next year.
     
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  19. Natebishop3

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    A trade is the best case for all involved.
     
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  20. Mediocre Man

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    Re: Minnesota: full of shit?

    Could be? It will be fun to see what happens. Either way I hope Batum ends up out of Portland if he truly would rather be somewhere else.
     
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