Think of all the jobs saved by those tax cuts! If ObamaLogic works on you democrats, think about that!
You can't make this shit up: http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/ So, in 2002, the Democrats tried to argue that Mitt Romney was so busy working on the Olympics from 1999-2002, that he spent so little time in Massachusetts, that he shouldn't be allowed to be on the ballot, but in 2012 he was deeply involved running Bain day-to-day during that same period? Hilarious.
To be honest, even if he is convicted of this I don't think Americans will care much. It seems kind of convoluted.
honest question... would being a convicted felon disqualify someone for the office of POTUS? of course if Romney is telling the truth he could settle matters in 2 seconds if he would just release his tax returns like every other candidate running for POTUS has done for decades. 4 years ago McCain released more then 20 years of tax returns. Even though Mitt's father George pioneered this practice of disclosure of finances among national candidates, Mitt is saying we only get one year and stop asking for more as it's none of our business. It's like someone is trying to sell you a car but won't let you look under the hood or take it for a test drive. http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...his-tax-returns-would-ko-shot-at-white-house/ STOMP
Two questions. First, do you really think Romney posting his tax returns would "settle" anything? Please. Second, what does his tax returns have to do with his ownership position in Bain Capital? Do you know what happened to Bain after he left to run the Olympics? The place had a huge power struggle. I had friends who were there. That place ran like a Swiss watch under Romney; it was chaos for four years after he left. If he were managing the firm, as has been alleged, the transition would have been smoother. Again, either he was running the firm or he wasn't. In 2002, the Democrats tried to disqualify him from the MA ballot because they thought he was living full time in Utah running the Olympics. In 2012, suddenly he's the mastermind of Bain, both saving the SLC Olympics and making the day-to-day decisions of a portfolio of companies under Bain Capital. Hell, if that's true, he should be President, because he'd be the greatest manager ever. It's a bullshit issue. If you want to accuse him of a felony, charge him. Eric Holder has the resources. Something tells me, however, this issue is just a distraction. Hell, the Obama Administration doesn't even know the difference between outsourcing and offshoring. Their ignorance of the private sector speaks volumes.
You mean a crime like perjury? Americans really didn't care about it when Clinton was president. Edit: To be more precise, I'm not saying they shouldn't care. I just don't think they will.
it would certainly settle this question which is my point. That he won't release his tax records (like everyone else does) strongly suggests that he's got more embarrassing something(s) to hide besides pulling his millions out of the US economy and into offshore tax shelters and Dressage horse write-offs. It's common for political candidates (via their surrogates) to try to use their opponents various public records against them, but it usually doesn't gain much traction. Everyone discloses because thats become part of being a national political figure... thats part of the price of going after this sort of job. Be honest, if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be all for this tactic to force the Democratic Party candidate to disclose... right? As an Independent voter, I definitely want George Romney's tradition of a decade (or so) of tax records being disclosed to continue, and have got to imagine that this won't play well with other Independents either. It further paints MR as a slimy flip-flopping entitled ass. Mitt may be calculating that it would be even worse for him if he did disclose, but thats the tough shit situation he finds himself in. He should have realized this rock and a hard place day of reckoning was coming... so should the Republican Party for that matter. STOMP
since Clinton wasn't convicted of a perjury felony, my original question remains unanswered http://mediamatters.org/research/2004/11/22/bennett-falsely-claimed-six-times-that-clinton/132332 STOMP
Don't you get it? The entire point of this exercise is to force Romney to release his tax returns so the Democrats can have specific numbers to show how fucking loaded he is. Do you think Barack Obama would release his tax returns back to 1999? Not bloody likely. This entire episode is a charade and a sideshow. And since when are tax shelters illegal? People take every deduction they can get. If you think he did something illegal, charge him. Have the IRS audit him. The problem for the Democrats is that he's squeaky clean. He tithes to his church, which is a giant number. He ran against Ted Kennedy. Do you think if the Kennedy's didn't find anything the Obama's will? Edit: George Romney's "test" isn't one that's been met by any other candidate, including the two in this race. By the way, don't pretend that the fact I don't like the President's policies makes me a brain-dead follower of his opponent. I don't really give a shit about this issue or the fact that over 30% of the President's income from 2009-2011 comes from abroad (http://www.volokh.com/2012/07/13/ov...-2011-gross-income-came-from-foreign-sources/) I want to talk about real issues. You'll note the current Administration will do anything to change the subject from the economy or their policies. If that's not a sign they've failed, I don't know what is.
http://www.taxhistory.org/www/website.nsf/Web/PresidentialTaxReturns/ yeah, I'm the one who doesn't get it STOMP
Cool. I stand corrected. I have no problem admitting when I'm mistaken. Thanks for teaching me something.
I most certainly do and articulated it pretty clearly. Obama's campaign smells blood knowing that MR's in a catch 22 situation... big time politics 101. Thanks for dodging my shoe question STOMP
What the Obama campaign is trying to do is to demonize someone who made a lot of money building businesses. Since when is a Swiss bank account something of which to be ashamed? I have one. What's the big deal about expanding companies overseas? Why can't private businesses seek higher returns in legal ways? If you want to know the difference between Romney and Obama? Romney used the money of private investors to make them more money. Obama used our money to pay off his friends. Which one is corrupt? I have no problem in vetting Romney, but no one--NO ONE--has ever accused him of doing anything illegal, other than Stephanie Cutter, who is backpedalling as fast as she can. They want the tax returns so they can paint him as a rich, out of touch guy. Oh, John Kerry and the Kennedys are totally cool with their wealth. As for the "shoe" question, I did answer it, you just didn't like the answer. I think this is a bullshit issue. If the Republicans were doing it to the Democrats, I'd call it a pile of crap as well. You mistake me for a partisan hack. I simply want to be left alone, in both my businesses and my private life. President Obama believes he better knows how to manage my life than do I. I knew the guy at the U of C, let me assure you, he isn't.
You frequently say you know famous people. Care to tell us the extent to which you knew the President?
this is where you and I differ in opinion. Making and having a lot of money is generally viewed as a good quality for a politician to have by the electorate. Hell, is there anyone in the Senate who isn't a multi-millionaire? However, how you make your money can matter. For an extreme example, a family fortune partially amassed bankrolling the rise of the Nazi party wouldn't be something a current day politician would trumpet. What Bain has done as a business is not playing well nationally despite your corruption frame job attempt. MR's supposed greatest strength (business) actually tuning out to be his achilles heal because of how his company made their money. I'm sure you disagree with the electorate on this, but that is how it's playing what the Obama campaign is trying to do is force him to release his taxes especially following the public's reaction to the single year that he did release. If he doesn't, they'll be happy to continue scoring political points painting him as a secretive vulture capitalist as thats playing really well STOMP
