Who said it? Olshey, Kahn clash on remarks from Batum's camp

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    LAS VEGAS — The Trail Blazers have matched Minnesota’s offer sheet for restricted free agent Nicolas Batum, who is expected to sign a contract in Portland on Thursday.

    I can write that with reasonable assurance.

    The rest of what we heard from Neil Olshey on Wednesday, I’m not so sure.

    Portland’s new general manager told a small group of media assembled Wednesday afternoon at THEhotel that there was never any doubt the 23-year-old Batum would be re-signed — though the Timberwolves put together an eye-popping contract offer reported at $46.5 million over four years, then engaged in trade talks with the Blazers in a bid to land Batum another way before officially extending the offer sheet.

    “The decision (to keep Batum) was made a long time ago,” Olshey said. “We were never not going to have Nicolas back.

    “We did investigate certain things with Minnesota as a due-diligence deal. We wanted to explore every option ... but there was never a situation where there was a commensurate package offered that was attractive enough to let Nicolas go.”

    So, there was enough doubt, at least, that the Blazers listened to Minnesota GM David Kahn’s trade proposal.

    Olshey disputed the notion that Batum preferred Minnesota as a destination next season. He said published quotes from the 6-8 small forward that said as much were contrived by both Kahn and Batum’s agent, Bouna Ndaiye.

    “Nic never said that,” said Olshey.

    Then Olshey said that Batum did.

    “Let’s be very clear,” Olshey said. Batum “made a couple of comments at the behest of the Minnesota Timberwolves and his agent. That was their agenda. It was never Nicolas’ agenda.”

    Soon after Olshey came on board, Ndaiye requested all negotiations with the Blazers go through him and not Batum. But Olshey said after a July 5 lunch date with Batum, “Nicolas and I have been in constant communication. He has always expressed his desire to come back to Portland.”

    Said Olshey: “I can tell you Nicolas called me after those articles (appeared) and said, ‘They put me up to it. It’s not me. I want to talk to you directly, Neil. I don’t want my agent to know or another team to know. I just want you and I to be on the same page.’

    “He always wanted to be back in Portland. I think he would have liked to have done the deal straight up, just like I would have, but he listened to his representative, and he (Ndaiye) got him a hell of a deal.”

    So Kahn and Ndiaye put Batum up to those comments as a negotiating tactic?

    I don’t think so. I think Batum believes what he said publicly, that he was dissatisfied with what went on in the Portland organization last season and the way he was used, and that playing with the Timberwolves was appealing.

    But he is smart enough to realize the Blazers, with the right to match Minnesota’s offer, held all the cards. Maybe, then, he told Olshey what he wanted to hear.

    “I think you should talk to the reporter who transcribed Nic’s comments,” Kahn told me Wednesday night when I read him Olshey’s quotes. “Maybe somebody kidnapped Nic and it wasn’t really him on the phone.

    “In my dealings with Nic over three days in Minneapolis, he didn’t strike me as the kind of person who chooses his words uncarefully. I understand, however, that it is important for Nic and the Trail Blazers to mend what obviously has been a fractured relationship this last year. I hope they can do so.”

    During summer-league play at Cox Pavilion Wednesday night, Ndaiye told me and Chris Haynes, CSNNW’s fine young reporter, that he would withhold comment until after Batum’s signing.

    Olshey said Batum’s pending contract “isn’t as egregious as ... was reported in the media. There were some bonuses included that were disallowed by the league.”

    Ndaiye said that wasn’t true, that the $46.5-million figure is accurate.

    Olshey chided a reporter for suggesting the Blazers might have paid too much for Batum.

    The contract amount “doesn’t matter,” Olshey said. Then the Blazer GM had a suggestion for the media: “Let us worry about the money. You guys worry about the players and how well or how poorly we play and how guys are developing. We’ll worry about how we manage our cap and what guys get paid.”

    Sure, Neil. Go out and spend Paul Allen’s dollars the way you see fit, and we’ll just trust that you’re making good decisions. Our job in the media is to support you and cheerlead and cross our fingers that you know what you’re doing.

    That’s certainly the way Blazer fans want us to behave.

    Olshey made another comment that astounded me: “Guys’ value is based on what they bring to the team, and I can assure you Nicolas will absolutely live up to this contract.”

    How can Olshey be so sure?

    To merit such a contract, Batum will at least have to be a strong No. 2 guy on a perennial playoff team, perhaps on a championship contender. I’m not saying he can’t get to that point, but I wouldn’t bet the owner’s yacht on it, as Olshey seems to be doing.

    Olshey made it clear expectations have risen considerably on Batum.

    “What matters is, Nicolas accepts responsibility that he’s going to be held to a higher standard now,” Olshey said. “He’s in a leadership position. He is one of the higher-paid players in the league at his position. I know he wants to embrace that and have a bigger role on the team on a daily basis.

    “When a new coach is hired and a new system is in, he’ll have more opportunity to live up to his contractual obligations based on the responsibilities he’ll take within our roster composition.”

    I agree with one stipulation by Olshey, that “the Portland fan base should in no way resent Nicolas Batum for this.”

    Batum may get a few boos before the first preseason game, but the vast majority of Blazer backers will be glad he remains in Portland.

    Batum, too, is a professional who will play his heart out for the team that has made him a very rich young man.

    I would use “rest assured.” But something tells me not to.

    http://portlandtribune.com/pt-rss/1...lshey,-kahn-clash-on-remarks-from-batums-camp
     
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  2. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The funny thing is I don't really mind the fact that Nic wanted to go play in Minny ... but because tons of people did, Olshey (and Nicolas?) are doing their level best to create enough counter-narratives that the truth will never be known and Nic can get on with the business of playing basketball without being mercilessly booed when he takes the court in that first home preseason game.

    I get it, but man, I'm ready for this "story" to die.
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Meh...

    Winner gets to write the history.

    Batum and Olshey won, they're the ones who get to spin the story anyway they want.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I think it's an interesting tactic for Eggers to make Olshey look bad in this article. I swear, you'd think our Portland media is working out of Minnesota.
     
  5. Spud147

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    I think Nic did want to go to Minnesota for the reasons he gave. I don't even have a problem with it but I think his agent really miscalculated by not accepting that Portland had all the leverage and that Blazer fans take these things personally.

    I think all will be forgotten and I don't see Nic getting boo'ed at his first game. We all want him to play well!

    And finally, Olshey is smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth. :pimp:
     
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    I think I'll put my money on Olshey rather than the guys that were obviously negotiating via the media and the GM that had two tries to submit a proper contract and couldn't.
     
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    Spud147 Mercy Mercy

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    I know, right? Dammit... If we want to drink the Kool-Aid just let us!
     
  8. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I don't think Eggers is axe-grinding here, he's one of the only local news guys that I think is pretty stand-up.

    And I don't think it really makes Olshey look bad either; it's sort of his job to spin things and take some of the heat off of his player(s). Good for him.
     
  9. Natebishop3

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    Normally I really like Kerry's work, but he definitely made Olshey look bad. Illustrating how he'd say one thing, and then contradict himself a moment later. I'm just saying this is the GM of the team you cover, and pissing him off might not be the best thing you could (especially when the whole thing is over and done with).

    I would also like to point out that Eggers is old school Oregonian with Jaynes and they regularly would eat together in the media room. I don't know if he was there when Kahn was covering the team, but it wouldn't surprise me. Old boys club.
     
  10. Pinwheel1

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    It is mid July. By mid September when he arrives back in Portland things will die down. Then you will have some questions on Media day, but after camp and pre season is done.... by the opener no one will care. Unless he sucks and then we will be all over his ass.
     
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    If Nic comes into camp motivated, averages close to 20 pts., 6 reb., and has a PER of around 19+, he could have referred to Portland as Stalingrad over the summer and Blazer fans will still love him this fall.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Nah, it's not that big of a deal.

    Besides, as a reporter isn't his job to highlight incongruous statements made by team officials? Not pointing it out would be a worse offense in my opinion.
     
  13. Ed O

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    That's a bullshit quote from Olshey. A player's salary (and the team's salary structure) is part of the NBA nowadays... it is definitely news and shows a sophistication on the part of the NBA fans that wasn't really around a decade or two ago.

    For a GM to pooh-pooh it and/or treat it like it's none of anyone's business strikes me as wrong-headed.

    Ed O.
     
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    Fuck I hate drama, grown men acting like teenage girls.
     
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    All I care about is Khan is crying right now. No Batum and no Williams. Serves him right for trying to undermine our franchise. To add insult to injury is if Roy comes back and plays absolutely terrible. Everything they tried taking from us turned to shit on their end.
     
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    im gonna trust the man who sent in an offer sheet to the league only to have it invalidated because he fucked up. Yep, thats the guy Im gonna believe
     
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    His glowing remark about Chris Haynes is enough to make you wonder if the whole thing is a put-on.
     
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    There is so much contradicting media over this its insane. Every person who posts and article seems to have a different take on it. As for Batum he never really said anything bad, all he did was say he wanted to go to Minny, big whoop. He was asked that question before the offer sheet was official, what the hell else was he going to say? If he says anything else he doesn't get the offer sheet from Minny.
    Most of the bad quotes came from Khan/Batums agent. In reality its pretty much like having to go to either Disney World or Six Flags. Sure you'd rather go to Disney World but are you going to bitch about Six Flags? Nope.
    Who cares what is real and what isn't as long as Batum shows up and plays.
     
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    The main cop, named 'Blake' is actually Robin.
    Alfred leaves Bruce. It's sad.
    Batman/Bruce is thought to of died carrying a nuke out of Gotham which detonates while he has is attached to his craft.
    After his funeral, Alfred see's Bruce in a cafe, he didn't die.
    Bane gets shot by catwomen, thats how he dies.
    Miranda (The main girl) who inherits Bruce's company is actually the villain. She dies in a truck crash.
    The little kid who is seen climbing out of 'The Pit' is not Bane, It's actually Miranda.
    Liam Neeson is Miranda/Talia's father
     
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    Ooh no, someone gave spoilers to a movie!

    oh whatever will we do!

    We sure got shown what is what!

    idiot.
     

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