The Paul Ryan Interview NBC Never Aired

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  1. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    And you just established that:

    You don't bother reading;

    You don't comprehend;

    And, you are just a troll.

    These were not economic meetings genius.

    The report on how little Obama spent on economic meetings is here:

    http://g-a-i.org/wp-content/uploads...-Economic-Meetings-A-Time-Based-Analysis2.pdf

    Hint: more time spent golfing than in economic meetings during the worst financial crisis in the U.S. since the Great Depression.

    But, go ahead, keep defending this guy. He needs all the help he can get.
     
  2. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    The polls don't agree with you, genius :dunno:
     
  3. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    I'm just curious why everyone thinks this way. I mean, if anything shouldn't the media have a right-wing agenda? I mean they are owned by huge corporations that would prefer to have fiscally conservatives in office.
     
  4. Masbee

    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    I don't care what other people think,

    I KNOW Obama has failed.

    He has failed my metric, he has failed his own metric. His own words half admitted he has failed.

    What more do you need. A club over the head?
     
  5. MickZagger

    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Why are you always so belligerent? Even when discussing basketball.

    The auto industry, the Taliban and thousands of American's that have better health care disagree.
     
  6. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    It's not the corporations, it's the journalists. Corporations care about profits, not ideology. Individuals are different. The profession is largely self-selecting. Those that choose journalism tend to be left of center. I don't think it's intentional. It's tough to fight your biases. I don't want to spend too much time trying to find the studies I read, but here's a webpage with links and data: http://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp What's unfortunate about the page I selected is the entire site is based on "media bias". That fact notwithstanding, it does provide some interesting data.

    However, decide for yourself
     
  7. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    There's your answer. Masbee hates American workers, supports the Taliban, wants Real Americans to die from lack of basic healthcare. That's really the only logical conclusion one can reach from his over the top attacks which seem to come out of nowhere for no reason.

    Either that or he's just plain :crazy:
     
  8. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Everyone should have health insurance. When the doctors go on strike, the people will still have their insurance. Insurance is clearly the most important thing in keeping people from dying when they have a critical condition.

    /sarcasm

    (yet this is what people argue for and say is really important)
     
  9. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Health insurance should be outlawed.

    It's the chief reason healthcare is unafforable.

    An enormous but completely unnecessary industry which serves no useful purpose, sucking the lifeblood (literally) of Real Americans.
     
  10. MARIS61

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    From that bastion of left-wing media propaganda, FOX NEWS...

    On the other hand, to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech....

    Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

    Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.

    Fact: Though Ryan insisted that President Obama wants to give all the credit for private sector success to government, that isn't what the president said. Period.

    Fact: Though Paul Ryan accused President Obama of taking $716 billion out of Medicare, the fact is that that amount was savings in Medicare reimbursement rates (which, incidentally, save Medicare recipients out-of-pocket costs, too) and Ryan himself embraced these savings in his budget plan.

    Elections should be about competing based on your record in the past and your vision for the future, not competing to see who can get away with the most lies and distortions without voters noticing or bother to care. Both parties should hold themselves to that standard. Republicans should be ashamed that there was even one misrepresentation in Ryan’s speech but sadly, there were many.


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/#ixzz26DyQ1Na0
     
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  11. Denny Crane

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    Medicare is health insurance.

    Outlaw it.
     
  12. PapaG

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    http://mrctv.org/blog/fact-checking-sally-kohn

    KOOK
     
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  14. PapaG

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    He sees an opinion piece from "FoxNews" on a liberal website and starts salivating...

    funny thing is that opinion piece actually shows that FoxNews allows liberals to work for them.
     
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  15. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    You missed a couple of things. First, the word "opinion" in the url. Second, that piece was written by Sally Kohn, who is one of the lefty punching bags FOX employs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Kohn

    Edit: I see PapaG and Ed O beat me to the punch.
     
  16. MARIS61

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    I agree. Healthcare should be 100% socialized and available to all citizens. I can think of nothing else the government spends our taxes on that should take precedence over universal healthcare. Medicare was the best compromise the right wing would allow at the time.
     
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    Are you saying Fox News is liberal?

    Are you saying she's not reporting the facts?

    Are you saying she's unfair to Ryan?
     
  18. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    It wasn't only the Fox writer. All newspaper fact-checking services found Ryan's speech full of lies.

    He also lied about his marathon time. He can't help himself.

    But his biggest lie is that he has any budget. He admits it has no numbers fleshed out. He's all smoke and mirrors.
     
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