White House Backs Away from Video Claims

PapaG · Sep 19, 2012

Most reasonable observers knew that these attacks weren't solely because of some video. I realize that message was put out there for the true believers of Obama and assorted morons without a clue, but after years and years of attacks, blaming a movie for deaths was too far for most intelligent people to accept.

So, in the midst of the "Mitt vs. Moochers" debate, the WH starts to backpedal away from their silly excuse.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...9e1a11e-01e4-11e2-b257-e1c2b3548a4a_blog.html

.Meanwhile White House press secretary Jay Carney, who was most insistent about the cause of the attacks last Friday also turned tail:

Q: Can I ask one more question, just on a different topic? It seems that the U.S. and Libya have sort of different accounts of the attack in Benghazi last week. There are reports that Libyan officials warned the U.S. of the growing extremist threat prior to the attacks, that they admitted they could not control some of these militias. That seems to run counter to what administration officials have been saying, that this was just a spontaneous reaction to this anti-Islam film. Can you kind of reconcile this?

MR. CARNEY: Well, what I can tell you is that we have provided information about what we believe was the precipitating cause of the protest and the violence, based on the information that we have had available. There is an ongoing investigation. The FBI is investigating. And that investigation will follow the facts wherever they lead.
What we do know about Libya is that it’s a country that emerged from war and revolution, and you have a new government trying to assert its authority as that country makes a transition to democracy and broader representation for all Libyans and broader rights for all Libyans. And in that environment there are certainly, in this postwar, post-revolution environment, there are vast numbers of weapons and certainly a number of violent groups in the country.
What is important to note, however, is that the Libyan people do not understand — or rather they do understand that the United States was with them in their efforts to achieve their aspirations, to rid them of the Qaddafi regime and the tyranny that Qaddafi inflicted upon them. But it is still a very volatile place, there’s no question about it.
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3RA1N1AC · Sep 19, 2012

RR7 · Sep 19, 2012

They should just say they do it because they're jealous of our freedoms.

3RA1N1AC · Sep 19, 2012

they hate us for our freedom to post videos on the internetz

MickZagger · Sep 19, 2012

You mean Black House? Hardy har har!!!!!

3RA1N1AC · Sep 19, 2012

jlprk · Sep 19, 2012

You started a thread just to show a quote that says, the FBI investigation will determine the motive of the attack.

Look at me!

PapaG · Sep 20, 2012

9/20/12: CBS News reports that in Benghazi there was never an Anti-American protest at the American Consulate, just an attack

Gee, no shit, ?

PapaG · Sep 20, 2012

White House: 'Self-evident' Benghazi attack was terrorism

MIAMI -- The White House now believes the Sept. 11 attack on its consulate in Libya that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans was a terrorist attack, press secretary Jay Carney said aboard Air Force One Thursday.

Carney's comments come a day after Matt Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, told a congressional committee that the attack could be considered terrorism — the first time an Obama administration official had described it that way.

"It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack," Carney said. "Our embassy was attacked violently and the result was four deaths of American officials. So, again, that's self-evident."
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http://www.politico.com/politico44/...azi-attack-was-terrorism-136142.html#comments

Gee, then why did the WH have Susan Rice and other mouth-breathers all over TV last week saying it was because of a video?

I expect lies from politicians, but the way posters on this board took the administration's initial claims about a protest regarding some silly video on this as the truth, when it was obviously a coordinated act of terrorism, has actually surprised me. I thought we had a better caliber of critical thinkers on the left here at S2.

Guess not.

jlprk · Sep 20, 2012

You're the only one who cares about such semantic trivia.

EL PRESIDENTE · Sep 20, 2012

Looks like the US government is taking the time to pay for ads to denounce the film in Pakistan?

http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-anti-film-ads-feature-obama-clinton-143350312.html

Marked by the U.S. Embassy seal, advertisements condemning an anti-Islam video appeared on Pakistani television on Thursday in an apparent attempt to undercut anger against the United States, where the film was produced. Hundreds of youths, however, clashed with security officials as they tried in vain to reach the embassy in Islamabad amid anger in many countries over the film's vulgar depiction of the Prophet Muhammad.

The advertisements appear to be an effort by the U.S. government to dampen chaos surrounding the film and undo some of the damage to America's image in the Muslim world. Violence linked to the movie has left at least 30 people in seven countries dead, including the American ambassador to Libya. Two people have died in protests in Pakistan.
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PapaG · Sep 20, 2012

:MARIS61:

http://www.npr.org/2012/09/20/161491148/libyan-militiaman-says-he-warned-u-s-of-dangers

Libyan Militiaman Says He Warned U.S. Of Dangers

Two days before the deadly Sept. 11 attack on Americans in Libya, three U.S. officials met pro-government militias working to provide security in the city of Benghazi.

In that meeting, which included the American economic and political counselors, Mohammed el Gharabi, a leader of a prominent militia, says he warned the Americans that the security situation in Benghazi was deteriorating.

Assassinations are becoming rampant; no one is safe, including militiamen like himself, he says he told the Americans.

He asked for help to secure Benghazi and suggested scaling back or possibly closing diplomatic missions until conditions were more secure. He didn't cite any specific threat, but reminded the Americans that there had been an attack in June on the fortified U.S. Consulate, which is enclosed by a high wall, topped with concertina wire.

They didn't heed his warning, he says.

So far, the U.S. government has been tight-lipped about the security procedures that day when a two-pronged attack on the consulate and a safe house left four Americans dead, including Ambassador Chris Stevens.
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maxiep · Sep 20, 2012

jlprk said: ↑

You're the only one who cares about such semantic trivia.
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No. No he's not.

Masbee · Sep 20, 2012

jlprk said: ↑

You're the only one who cares about such semantic trivia.
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Is this for real?

It can't possibly be a post meant to mean something substantive.

jlprk · Sep 20, 2012

You and PapaG are the only ones who care about how "The FBI is investigating" is worded. Did you care whether the Colorado medical student killed people because he was defending Batman the movie?

All right then. You lose.

jlprk · Sep 21, 2012

How does it matter whether the White House's attempt to quell emotions among Muslims and save other American ambassadors' lives is 100% true? This pettiness is why Republicans are losing the election. You'd rather hurt America abroad, trying to score a percentage point for Romney, than play the propaganda game when we're at war.

Who cares whether they blamed the movie? What matters is the investigation going on behind the scenes.

What should be said? The truth? "Duh, we got attacked because Muslims hate us for making war on them for a decade with no letup in sight. Libyans should kill more Americans. Please do."

PapaG · Sep 21, 2012

jlprk said: ↑

You and PapaG are the only ones who care about how "The FBI is investigating" is worded. Did you care whether the Colorado medical student killed people because he was defending Batman the movie?

All right then. You lose.
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If Aurora PD was notified a few days before the attack that an attack was coming, and Aurora PD did nothing to beef up security at the theater, then it would be a major story. Instead, Obama's media buries this bad news (for Barry), and we get lackeys like posting stupid strawmen arguments that actually end up defeating the point your were trying to make.

You lose.

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