I know Chip likes to spread the ball around, but we need to find more ways to get these guys the ball. Lyerla could easily put up 100+ yards receiving, and he has NFL written all over him. DAT is a guy that should be getting the ball as much as possible in a number of different ways. I would like to see us try some more reverses because I haven't seen any so far this year.
Yeah, I think it's long over-due for colt to be a bigger part of the offense. I think a good TE would be a great target for a young QB, catching balls over the middle and as a check down recieiver out of the backfield. He's also good as a change up runner to pound the ball inside.
The crazy thing is, he's super athletic too. Reminds me a bit of Vernon Davis, although Davis might be a step faster. I think they're working up to having him as the featured receiver, but I would love to see him get the ball five or six more times next week.
I think one of the reasons for our success is the fact we spread the ball around. Therefore Chip isn't too high on targeting those two. That said, I also think those two need more touches.
I think Lyerla is definitely a #1 option type of player. The guy just does great things when he has the ball. DAT is so versatile. Since teams aren't really punting to him, I'd like to see Chip use him on my reverses or maybe run the option a bit more.
We didn't spread the ball around this much when we had LMJ. We didn't spread it around this much when we had Maehl. We had had talented players before and CK found ways to get them the ball.
The team and the attack benefit from spreading the ball around/keeping the D from keying on their best players. It also keeps their best players from getting worn down in games and over the course of the season. Whats the benefit of riding them hard vs the lessor foes vs having them closer to 100% for games where the outcome might be in doubt? The team winning games >>> individual stats/awards STOMP
We didn't spread the ball around this much when we had LMJ. We didn't spread it around this much when we had Maehl. We had had talented players before and CK found ways to get them the ball.
I dunno. It sounds good, but when you have players like DAT, Colt and Barner they all need major touches. It's your thoroughbreds that win the most races.
Barner is 7th in the nation in rushing and is healthy halfway through the season for a team that is averaging 52 ppg. Why not keep doing what is working?
right, but CK has more talent now then ever before. In 2012 Oregon is averaging more yards per game in the air then they did in 2010 or 2011 with Maehl & Tuinei... btw, AT averaged 3.4 catches per game last year vs. DAT averaging 3.3 catches this. Oregon is averaging the same yards rushing per game as they did last year with LMJ and I'm pretty sure that last year's rushing attack was Kelly's best. besides individual contests like the Heisman, which races is Oregon losing? All I've noticed is blowouts where Kelly is easing off the gas in the 2nd halves and a team positioned to win it's 4th straight Pac 12 championship and maybe more. All three of the guys you mention look really sharp to me, and I'm loving it that CK is utilizing his quality depth. Doing so keeps everyone involved/focused and the stars healthy for when more is needed STOMP
Great, but the teams we've played thus far have not been defensive juggernauts, and Arizona, while an exceptional offensive team, is not known for their defense. That is why some of us have been so complimentary of our defense thus far. They have played exceptionally against some fairly good offensive teams. It's our offense that has played, imo, just okay against some very weak opponents. Are we really celebrating big wins over Louisiana Tech, Fresno State, etc? I think the win over Arizona and UW were good, solid wins. Most impressively done by the defense. Yes, we're putting up big numbers, but I think it's to be expected from this offense and against the opponents we're facing. We can talk about our offense after we've played Stanford, USC, and Cal.
whoops, I'm sorry. I thought it was okay to talk about the offense now. I could have sworn someone started this thread to talk/complain about the offense, but my bad STOMP
I'm not sure I love running DAT through gaps taking on LB's and lineman heads up... I'd prefer to use him in space. We have Barner and Marshall to crack pads and even Colt for that matter.
Oh please, you know what I meant. My point is, you talk about our offense like there's nothing to work on. Like there's no problems whatsoever because we've hung some big numbers on inferior opponents. When I said, "talk about the offense," I meant in the same breath and on the same level as the defense, but thanks for the feigned ignorance and the snark.
I don't think anyone is talking about using DAT in the same capacity as LMJ. We would like to see more screens, more sweeps, etc. So, essentially, use him in space as you said.
you talk about the team's offense like they are struggling and CK is misusing his weapons. You offer no reasons why spreading the ball around might be a bad thing, just acting like it's a fact. I pointed out that they're doing just fine production wise by keeping a team focus and are guarding their stars health... thats much more important then individual production IMO. You then complain about the good ol' days of 1 and 2 years ago when they didn't spread touches around so much again offering no reasoning why this would be a good thing. I countered that they're actually producing more now and showed that this wasn't true last year with Tuinei as you suggested. You come back with some goobledygook about how the teams they've been playing aren't good on D so those stats don't count or some BS so I shouldn't talk about the offense like they've done anything Again, whats the benefit of riding the stars hard against the lessor foes vs having them closer to 100% for games where the outcome might be in doubt? The only thing I come up with is that the stars would have better stats, but I support Chip in not prioritizing that. I've never come close to indicating that there is nothing for the offense to work on or no problems, but thanks for that as everyone loves having BS views attributed to them. They've lost two starting offensive lineman, that sure doesn't make me happy/help the cause. They've a lot of work ahead on both sides of the ball and need to keep their focus. I do think this team's offense is better then it's D and hope/expect they'll continue to mow through their upcoming opponents... thats been my view all season because they seem a deep talented team with lots of upper classman and a dominant coach. STOMP
There's a difference between "riding your stars hard" and actually getting them the touches they deserve. This team relied pretty heavily on LMJ the past few years, and it's nice that we don't have to do that as much anymore, but do you honestly feel that Lyerla is getting enough passes? That DAT is getting the ball as much as he should be? They're "stars" because good things happen we they touch the ball. Why wouldn't you want them to get the ball more?
