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Common knowledge.

Firefighters, teachers, electricians, truck drivers, railroaders....This is who makes up our middle class. The middle class is what makes the economy thrive.

 

.....and Gary Johnson's plan is...?

 

Damn dude. Union workers make up 11% of the workforce, and only 7% of the non-public workforce. That's who makes up the middle class?

Amazing intellect you have there. Please teach us some more.

 

A good read for the out of touch righties who loathe the backbone:

http://www.debate.org/opinions/are-unions-beneficial-to-the-economy

The logic behind paying a non-union worker $10/hr to work for a company like Caterpillar and a union worker $26/hr and how that benefits the economy is hard to understand? Instead of lining the pockets of the 1% CEO's it strengthens the middle class.

 

I'm pretty sure the employees at the laundromat and taco shop aren't middle class. They're in poverty.

 

Uh, were talking about the middle class, now your going into the entire workforce? Swaying away from the topic at hand? I said the backbone of the MIDDLE CLASS.

Dund.

Der.

Head.

 

man, you are not going to reach Mick, he is the guy who will rep the occupy movement while being part of the fortunate few. It iis easy for him to ride barrycare program because it will not effect him. very typical of the left

 

Read this: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/labor/news/2012/09/21/38898/states-with-stronger-unions-have-stronger-middle-classes/

Then get back to me.

 

Do some simple math. You can handle it. There should be a calculator function on your computer.

 

I hated the Occupy Movement and I said so from the onset. I hate organized marches in general. Thanks for playing, though.

 

Why not pay the union worker $75/hour? All it will do is strengthen the economy, right?

 

Give me some stats Stanford guy. I want to see % of middle class workforce that is union. Not the entire workforce, the middle class. You can do it!

 

Apples and oranges. Are you being sensationalistic because its 'cute'?

 

Its not very Stanford-like of someone to not be able to distinguish between the middle class and the overall workforce.

 

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/01/20/173738/report-incomes/



Continue the parade against organized labor!!! Its a noble cause.

 

I've worked in my share of union shops and, quite frankly, have seen a microcosm of socialism. Meaning, the diligent and hard working "class" end up covering for the dead wood....yet, they're all incentivized equally. In these types of situations, I've also seen plenty of resentment and contempt from the "good guys". Kinda sad, really. In most every case, I had been in a management position, so I had to engage in more than my share of "righting" the situations. Many, many pep talks, disciplinary action, and the like to the bottom-dwellers.

I get it that we don't want greedy CEO's and such lining their respective pockets. We've had this conversation before, but I'd love for more companies to co-op themselves...and provide incentive structures that breed hard work, team players, and/or innovation.

 

What are you talking about? Why stop at $26/hr? Why not $30/hr? $35/hr? What's the right number? Isn't higher better?

 

You made the claim, back it up. Hell, use an estimate for the percentage of the workforce that is "middle class" and back it out from there. Can you handle that much math?

This is too easy. It's like watching a cat chase a laser pointer while running into furniture. I almost feel bad about it.