Mitt Romney's Tax Plan

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Ok Ghandi.
     
  2. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    your rapier wit has wounded me beyond reproach.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Poor choice of words.
     
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    sheeple is a much better word.
     
  5. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    ok. i'll use sheeple from now on.

    I am sorry for all the mentally challenged friends and friends of those aforementioned who I have offended.
     
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    The evolution of this thread reminds me of the debate I just watched.


    Anyway, carry on with the fact-finding 'tard' probe...
     
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    im kind of out of the loop on this one, mental retardation isnt a thing anymore?
     
  8. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I'm afraid to answer you now, so...

    both teams played hard.
     
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    you are such a sheeple
     
  10. EL PRESIDENTE

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    As a sheep fucker, I find offense to your characterization.
     
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    oh, ok sheep fucker, sorry about that
     
  12. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Julius, I appreciate you being personally offended by the term, but I would look in the spirit in which it was uttered. By my reading, while the term "'tard" was used, it wasn't calling out mentally handicapped people any more than calling someone a "bitch" is calling out a female dog or calling someone "gay" is making fun of homosexuals. Anyway, that was my unrequested $0.02.
     
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    I get what you're saying, and respect that you feel that way. But it's like saying "I didn't MEAN anything bad by calling you ***got"...when someone who is a homosexual sees that as societies acceptance of a derogatory term.

    As I doubt there are many of us here who are special needs here (I have no doubt that high functioning 'special needs' adults or teens do post here), it's very easy for us to dismiss the power of that word.

    It's why it's not acceptable to say "don't jew me down in price", or make jokes about different cultures, etc.

    If you look at the spirit of how something is said, it doesn't take away the true meaning behind the word or the origins of the word.

    like the NBA commercial (cheesy as it may be) about the word "gay". We all know what it means to call someone or something 'gay', to act as though it doesn't mean that is disingenuous.
     
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    Great points. Repped.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    thanks. I also thought about it this way (as you can tell, certain things Im passionate about, and this is one of them).

    One of the things that I've tried to teach the people that Ive worked with/for, is the the power of communication/speech. Some of the adults I've worked with can't speak for themselves. They lack the ability to communicate verbally. They can't tell you that what you said hurts their feelings, makes them happy, sad, etc. Of course, if you work with them long enough you learn to read a lot of their body language. But my point is this...

    Words have greater power than most of us realize or want to realize. This isn't about being offended, or anything of that sort. This is about power, respect, honesty, love and dignity. To use a term that has historically been used to diminish, or even dehumanize a group of people, should not be acceptable to anyone.

    I've worked with adults who aren't verbal, but are intelligent enough to know what it is I'm saying, or others are saying. And I know what it's like to see their face when we're in public and someone says something along the lines of "Man, person is such a 'tard" or "don't be such a retard!" or whatever.

    The know what that word means. They've grown up hearing that word in a totally different manner than you or I have. They've been called that, and not in a "ha ha" joking manner. They've been called that because they ARE different, they are "mentally/physically retarded". I've seen the look on their face when they relive the embarrassment or pain of being called that, or hearing people use that term to signify someone doing something stupid, or dumb, or ignorant.

    But unlike you or me, they can't say anything about it. They don't have the ability or the power to respond to it. And to see people, who are obviously adults and have cognitive skills that allow them to carry on conversations with other people (and read body language, facial expressions, etc) use those terms, it hurts. It hurts them and it hurts me. And there have been times when I've seen it said around them and I'm in shock that they do it right in front of people who have special needs.

    It's not about being politically correct, it's not about being offended or not, it's about being respectful and giving someone else the same dignity you'd expect for yourself.

    So maybe I overreacted (I don't think I did, but that's how I feel. Others obviously don't have to feel that way).
     
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    you should know I attack everyone. even SlyPokerDog.
     
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    Just havin' some fun. I'll change your post back if you want.
     
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    nah, i don't give a shit.
     

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