Zombie Harden traded to Houston!?

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  1. Sinobas

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    So I imagine that Houston now has certain rights that would allow them to make a better offer than the Blazers to retain Harden. We probably don't have much of a shot now unless Harden doesn't like it in Houston, or the Rockets end up not being impressed enough with him to dole out a big contract.

    Any other options for next year? Monta Elllis is the only intriguing option I see, he has an early termination option. But there really are not any other high impact FA available. We might be able to bulk up our bench with guys like Anthony Morrow and Carl Landry.
     
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    from what I've heard on the tweets, HOU is just waiting for the trade paperwork to go through and will give Harden his max extension, which he'll sign.
     
    BrianFromWA, Oct 27, 2012
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    that's the best Q right there, hard to believe HOU does that deal with no extension agreed to - suicidal if they did
     
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    What is Houston doing? Active is great, if you have a plan. Lin and Harden won't amount to shit. Promise.
     
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    IMO real good move by Presti, they really could not afford to pay and got good assets back
     
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    Interested in knowing the protection on those picks, but this seems like a purely financial decision for OKC. Brutal blow to the small market teams.
     
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    The Dallas pick is protected to twenty for awhile .

    Still love this move for OKC. They got more for Harden than Orlando did for Howard. The new CBA played heavily into forcing the Thunders hand.
     
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    They got more than ORL did, but still KMart is a chucker and Lamb seems like a really mediocre prospect.

    KD, KM, RW is a terrible trio basketball wise.
     
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    IMO when Harden declined the 52 mil 4-yr deal OK said FU and sayonara, I like that
     
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    the protections on the rumored picks. I was wrong about DAL being a potential lotto pick:

     
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    wait the pick is top 3 AND 15-30 protected?

    So 4-11 and it's OKC's, anything else and it stays in Houston?
     
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    ESPN is reporting that OKC offered 55.5 million over 4 years.....4.5 million short of a max deal.

    Pretty ridiculous that they wouldn't give him 1 million more a year and instead shipped him out in a deal that makes the team worse now and in the future with the protections on those picks they received.

    I wouldn't have moved Harden unless I was getting a guaranteed top 5 pick.
     
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    Anything else and it stays in Toronto.
     
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    It makes a potential title contender worse, and all for like an additional 2mil/yr. I don't think many OKC fans are as happy with this as you are.
     
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    Houston should be bad enough for a good pick. After signing Harden they can still sign a max free agent next year.
     
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    OKC couldn't pay him what he wanted, so they struck while the iron was hot and they could get a trade done under their own terms and will still keep their talent level at a pretty high level. Conversely, Houston got the star they coveted.

    Good trade.
     
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    or pretty ridiculous that that he would not accept that good of an offer? Depends on the glasses one is wearing
     
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    Why should he accept that offer? Harden was going to get paid 60 million somewhere.
     
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    the reason I say that is that I think Harden is over rated by a good bit, whether or not I am right or full of shit will be determined the next few years
     
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    how much money does one need? would you rather be a serious title contender EVERY year or suffer in HOU for 4 years? For me I take the 55 mil and likely win a few titles, vs the 60 mil and mediocrity. Different stokes
     
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