Gay marriage a federal matter?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I don't understand why the gay community believe the federal government is the legislation in charge of "gay marriage". This is a State matter and even a full blown democrat Fed couldn't change that.

    Marriage is registered through the State, not the federal government. The state is whom decides if a gay marriage is legal or not.

    So the votes against Romney did nothing to help the "Gay Marriage" cause. It's unfortunate, but the reality. This is why "Social Issues" have no real place in the federal government.

    Biggest Example: Colorado legalizes Marijuanna; yet it is illegal at the federal level.
     
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    presidents can push their agendas, as you clearly know

    if he actually WOULD have is anyones guess
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    The thought is that it's a federal right when you have to pay taxes differently.
     
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    Wouldn't this prove the opposite of what you're getting at? The fact that it is still illegal federally and no one knows what is really going to happen with the federal enforcement of the law (like the medicinal shops getting closed down here in CA or with assisted suicide being challenged 10 years ago or so in Oregon).
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    No it proves that even though the federal government makes weed illegal; the state has the authority to give safe haven to those that wish to smoke the kind without being arrested.
     
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    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    But they can't. Federalis can come in and arrest and confiscate w/e they want.
     
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    Thats what they say; but let's see if they do. I guarantee that they won't arrest those that follow the strict laws associated with the sale of marijuanna. Especially when they see the revenue come in. Also, this will set an example for the rest of the world. Once they realize that the revenue of taxes on Marijuanna brings to the state and income tax dollars; I expect more acceptance at the federal level.

    Look at California for example. Weed isn't truly legal. You must obtain a medical card. Yet there are growers and smokers throughout that haven't been harrassed by the federal government.
     
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    You are wrong. Yes, states govern marriage laws in their individual states. But there are over 1500 federal rights and responsibilities that apply only to married couples. The federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) explicitly states that these rights and responsibilities are not extended to same sex couples married in states where their marriages are legal. Under the federal "full faith and credit" act, legal marriages in one state arerecognized in others, even if that marriage would not be legal in the second state. For example, some states allow first cousins to marry; others do not. If first cousins married in a state where that was allowed and then moved to a state that did not allow cousin marriage, under the "full faith and credit act" they would still be legally married. However, under DOMA full faith and credit does not apply to same sex couples. If a couple legally marries in New York or Iowa and moves to Illinois or Oregon, they are not legally married in their new state.

    So marriage is both a state and a federal matter.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Thanks for the clarification. I did not know that.
     
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    I think a way to make this a win/win for both the gay community as well as the economically conservative republicans is to have a pay per view of the honeymoons. I have to imagine the lesbian honeymoons would be very well recieved....at least some of them
     
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    you are into gay porn? thats kinda weird
     
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    Not me personally, but it's great for a lot of Republicans as well as the Catholic church
     
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    ahh yes the closeted pedophile crowd, good idea :crazy:
     
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    Hey, it's all about the economy
     
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    Along the line of it being all about the economy, think about how much money is spent on weddings each year. Presents, halls, dresses, suits, travel, hotels, food, beverages, etc. Allowing a bunch more people to marry can only help!
     
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    1. Like crandc said, gay marriages in one state don't count in another.
    2. There have been several examples of medical marijuana growers and users, even a paraplegic, being arrested by federal agents in California.
     
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    And boy do those gay peeps go all out!
     
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    I love (sarcasm) the whole "gay rights" conversation. It's sad we talk about "gay rights".

    There should only be ONE set of rights: American rights. Either you're an American citizen, and you have equal rights with all other American citizens.

    (cue up the following sarcastic response from a few of you: Or you're not an American citizen, you're here illegally, and you're being handed everything.)
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    AMERICA!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

    [video=youtube;IhnUgAaea4M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M[/video]
     
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    YEAH! FUCK YEAH!!
     

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