Is Microsoft dying?

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    How can it be dying when a huge percentage of PC's still use Windows?

    What would replace MS if it died? I'm damn sure not buying an Apple.

    Windows 8 was a terrible idea though, I'll give them that. I don't know why they ever thought PC owners would want an interface like that.
     
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    Why are you damn sure not buying an apple?

    They don't have tapatalk? :)
     
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    Because I don't like the way Apple is setup. I don't like the interface at all. I also think an Apple computer is vastly over priced and completely inferior to whatever I can build for half the price. Not to mention the whole hipster factor.
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    PCs becoming less relevant. The operating systems becoming less relevant, too. What is relevant is the cloud, and a browser to connect to it.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/de...pc-sales-slide-2012-11-15?link=MW_latest_news

    The big sales are phones and tablets (and laptops, they're portable), and M$ is a badly implemented "me too" player.

    M$ blew it with Vista and then Windows 7 was nothing more than a Windows that worked pretty good. But it still was Windows.

    I think they bet the farm on Windows 8. There used to be a day when Microsoft released a new Windows and it was the hottest thing. Today, it's Apple releasing a new phone or smaller tablet or OS.
     
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    I am willing to bet money that Apple dies before Microsoft. They're desperate with all these petty lawsuits. Samsung is kicking their ass in terms of product and quality. Steve Jobbs is dead and Apple will die with him, just like they did before. They're only surviving on name alone, and soon that will not be enough.
     
  7. Denny Crane

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    Ah.

    Apple hardware is overpriced for what you get. Except it's really slick in how it's packaged (tiny laptop, long battery life, etc.). And the software (OS) is brilliant.

    So you trade the great software for blue screens and an OS that slows down the more you use it.

    The macs aren't slow at all. I'll take a fast computer that is GOOD vs. one that's fast and cheap.

    (good, fast, cheap, pick two).
     
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    You don't game Denny. You forgot "powerful" and Apple's are not powerful. I know every part of my computer because I built it. If you're just planning on surfing the web, you can use a Mac or whatever you like. If you want to shoot people in the head in HD, you have to run something with more power. There's nothing "cheap" about my computer, but the system was still infinitely less expensive than an inferior machine by Apple.
     
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    I used to feel the same way and still feel like they are overpriced.

    But I've had my apple laptop for over two year and haven't had one virus (my favorite part about apple). I also find the operating system to be be very intuitive.

    I use microsoft at work and apple at home . . . I can go with either one.
     
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    BlazerCaravan Hug a Bigot... to Death

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    Not really sure you can call any company with 120 billion dollars in the bank desperate.

    Also, you sound like every fandroid on engadget.
     
  11. Denny Crane

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    My Mac is powerful. It's got a 6G/sec. SSD in it, 32G of RAM, and a 3.4GHz quad core I7 (hyperthreading).

    It boots in about 5 seconds from power off. It launches any program I run within a couple of seconds. And I use it to develop software, which is heavy duty computing.
     
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    The lawsuits say otherwise, and it's coming back to bite them in the ass.
     
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    And how much did you pay? BTW what could you possibly need 32 gigs of ram for?
     
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    I'm not a fan of Microsoft or Apple. With Microsoft, IE completely blows (as any web developer will tell you), and Windows 8 is terribad. As for Apple, to be fair I've only owned an iPod and an iPhone, but iTunes is 100% awful, the iPod crashes on me at least once a week, and I refuse to get iOS 6 because I like having the Google Maps and Youtube apps. I also can't stand that any music you download is not an MP3, Apple has to have their own special format. In a nutshell, both companies are trying to gear their products to be closed-end and take over your life, which doesn't work for me.

    For me, it's Linux time.
     
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    It's an iMac. You can price it for yourself.

    32G? Virtualization.
     
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    Oh, IE is stupid bad. I haven't used it in a long long time. I also think most people will skip Windows 8 and pick up whatever the next iteration is. I like Windows 7 though. I have it on my laptop and PC. I think it runs fine.
     
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    I've gone back and forth several times and am done with windows. I'm not some apple geek who talks about all the intricacies, I'm just a user who never has problems with apple yet all my pc's end up crashing or glitching. It's going to take something extraordinary to bring me back to windows.
     
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    OSX is a proper Unix. It's much easier to secure. My quad core CPU used two under Windows to constantly run a Virus checker and spyware scanner.

    Before Windows 7, I ran Linux. It was the only real 64 bit OS out there. You could run Vista x64, but that was a debacle. 64 bits meant more than 3.2G of RAM could be used.

    After Windows 7 came out, I switched for a while. It is still Windows. Fresh install and the computer seems really fast. The more I used it, the slower it got.

    Then I reinstalled Ubuntu, put Windows in a VM, and my whole computer seemed about 10x faster. Windows booted up in 15 seconds in the VM. It was way faster. Seems it got a boost from Linux caching the disk for it.
     
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    PC users have been saying apple is dead since I had my first apple in 1988. I will admit that early 1994; apple almost died. But then they revolutionized mp3 players and the phone. They hold the highest marketshares of each. My apple kicks the shit out of any PC in the market. 4 quad core processors and a bitchin graphics card. And apple gets it with hardware. They design the entire system to give you the biggest bandwidth from every angle. PC's are a bunch of pimple faced geeks that think they can rebuild a mustang. Apple takes the mustang and turns it into a porsche. Just facts
     
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    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57500159-37/jury-awards-apple-more-than-$1b-finds-samsung-infringed/

    When you say "kicking ass"; do you mean by paying them 1 billion dollars for stealing their ideas?
     

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