Republicans, can I ask an honest question about racism

racism isn't about voting for a person who is of your race, but thinking that your race is intrinsically better.

Look at it this way, if voting for your own race was racism (as thats what you seem to be implying), you seem to be suggesting that 60 (? 61?) % of the white people in the country (especially white men) are racist.

And historically, it's not black people that had large groups of their people that have racist tendencies, nor were they ever in charge of the government/state government and could enlist racist laws or rules.

 

Fez asked for "I challenge you to find any KKK member in the history of that group who wasn't a Republican" and that's what I gave him. That statement by Fez shows how little he understands how political parties have changed over the years or even how racist Portland and Oregon were at times. Hell, until the early 90's the Portland Police were still tossing dead opossums in front of black owned businesses.

Mostly an Anti-Catholic group?!? So those were Catholics they were hanging? The KKK has always been about race first.

 

please, inform me what racism is.

because I'm fairly certain saying who you vote for isn't exactly high on the list of what makes up a racist person.

 

Fez didn't ask for nowadays did he? Instead he said "I challenge you to find any KKK member in the history of that group who wasn't a Republican."

Pretty stupid statement on his part.

 

I grew up in Chicago. A northern city that was one of the most segregated places I've ever lived. North side is nearly all white. South side is nearly all black. It's a Democratic Party machine town. Famous for graft and trading favors for votes.

Richard J Daley was mayor there for years. In the 1960s, he got the Chicago Housing Authority to build a public housing project named Cabrini-Green. It was nice and shiny new when he invited black folk to move in. Then he build a freeway around it to keep the black people in and enterprise out. Then he let the place run down to the point where the elevators stopped working, the lead paint pealed off the walls, etc. Those poor people had to carry their groceries up 6 flights of stairs. The place was utterly crime ridden as well - which is to be expected when enterprise is kept out. There'd be stories on the news every once in a while about a child hit by a stray bullet.

How Democrat is Chicago? The mayoral candidates there win with 70% or more of the vote. Unless the candidate is a black man or woman. In 1983, Harold Washington won a 3-way mayoral primary against 2 white democrats. He ran in the general election against republican Bernard Epton, a white lawyer who was relatively unknown. Epton came within 40,000 votes (out of at least 1M votes) of winning the general election. All those "liberal" democratic white folk wouldn't vote for the black man, even though he too was democrat.

The city has been sued and had to pay out many $millions when the police were caught torturing (rubber hoses, burning victims against radiators, etc.) young black men arrested for who-knows-what.

The public schools in Chicago are a disgrace. The last time I was there, the inner city schools were tagged, windows covered with chain link or bars (like a prison), and generally run down. Not at all true of the white neighborhood schools.

There were allegations that the city zoned black neighborhoods for toxic waste dumps and the like. Hardly surprising.

Read up on Jim Crow. Those laws were all made by Democrats. The KKK was founded by Democrats and they lynched republicans.

The stuff in Chicago is plenty recent enough. I've seen similar segregation in Detroit, and the SF Bay Area. Civic planning, Democrat style.

 

Racism is thinking white people are superior to black people (or other people of color). Superior being the key word.

 

I understand that, but it's still comparing a party affiliation that 75-100 years later doesn't resemble the party of today. Such as the southern Democrats (really racist) and how they switched party affiliations and became Republicans.

The actions of those democrats (who didn't appreciate the more left leaning nature of the national D party) switched more towards a Republican affiliation.

There's reasons why they did that too.

In Pre 1940's Oregon, the KKK wasn't about Black people, but about Catholics. There weren't many blacks in Oregon in the pre-1940's Oregon and Anti-Catholicism was a much bigger issue in the West. Yes, there were groups that targeted blacks/chinese/jews whatever, but in OREGON (which is the state that the local connection that you mentioned resided in) it was mostly an Anti-Catholic group, a "mens" group, and much like an Elks lodge.

In Oregon, it was more about Catholics than Blacks. Thats not to say thats how it was in other states.

 

I don't think there is a democrat or republican politician who is currently a member of the KKK.

Now if you could get me some sort of current membership list of the KKK that included pictures I could tell you which ones are democrats just by looking at them.

 

The term cracker is not nearly as racist as the term ******.

There isn't a history of institutionalized racism in favor of black people, by black people, put upon white people.

The laughability of some idiot saying that about 'crackers' being some kind of proof of black racism against white people being more wide spread than a really small % of blacks as whole, is high.