Republicans, can I ask an honest question about racism

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  1. 3RA1N1AC

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    your chart shows that conservatives are racist, right mags?
     
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    Black people are not racist toward whites. Their rhetoric and actions are racial, not racist. The difference is quite significant.
     
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    exactly. Black people voting for Obama isn't about thinking they're superior, as much as it's them wanting someone who looks like them to be in charge, or they agree with his political views, or don't agree with Romneys. I have no doubt there are people who voted for Obama because he's black, but I would bet that # is much smaller than the # of those who voted for Romney because Obama is black.

    Voting for Romney didn't make you racist.
     
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    Being an issue =/= racism.
     
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    Racist? Actually the chart shows both parties being racist against Blacks. I would be curious on which parties interviewing blacks from both parties whom are racist towards whites. The fence goes both ways.
     
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    Oh so you are downplaying racism?
     
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    Um..your graphs don't actually back up what you're saying (they really don't say anything)
     
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    you guys are seriously posting too quick here. I'm responding to days old shit!

    But Denny is right. RacIAL, probably to yes. RacIST, no.
     
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    No, I'm downplaying that you consider that to be racism.
     
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    I have no beef with black people voting for Obama. I do think they're voting not in their best interests. Maybe it is in their interest in the long run, but Obama hasn't really done much to help.

    I'll be brutally honest. I wish Obama appointed all black men and women to his cabinet and czar positions. I don't think that's a racist thing, but a sort of affirmative action thing. I think people would get used to seeing a black face associated with running the various parts of government and realize there's nothing wrong with that. It'd be schooling people to be qualified for jobs in future administrations. Plus I think the black men and women might have a better understanding of how to fix at least some of the more egregious issues that govt. has caused.
     
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    Really? They back up exactly what I have been saying all along. There is racism on both sides of the political view. If you can't see that; then I guess you need to take off those Rose Colored Liberal Goggles.
     
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    So you think that the word "cracker" is not a racist comment?
     
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    What is the origin of the term "cracker" when used to describe white people?
     
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    I agree. I have no beef with people voting for Obama, for Romney or whatever. I also think that a LOT of people, and not just blacks, don't vote in their best interests.

    And i'm not saying you are isolating blacks in that mindset.

    Me too. Well, not the "appointed all" thing. I want him (and any candidate) to appoint qualified people. Don't care about their color. But I do think that empowering minorities (women...well, they're not stat wise a minority, blacks, asians, latinos, etc) is better for the long run health of the country.

    I don't like the idea of the OP though, I think racist ideology doesn't necessarily see itself seated in one party thinking.

    In that, Republicans don't sit down and go "ook Gents..how do we keep them darkies down!".

    I DO think, however, that some of the general ideology of a more conservative party DOES speak to those who are of a racist mindset. And of course, the people who are conservative are not be default racist.

    I think a bigger issue with people in politics is the denial of historical racism/favortism and how institutionalized racism has played a detrimental role in certain cultures in our society. To deny that is to deny truth. And to think that we don't need to do anything to FIX it (or level the playing field) is a dangerous mindset.

    That said, I'm not saying that what I just said is fixed by AA, or that more AA would fix it.
     
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    Oh, sorry i thought you were ytrying to say one is more than the other. My bad
     
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    oh im sorry, i meant more racist than liberals, not just racist in general

    your chart shows that right?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(pejorative)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative

    A pejorative[1] (also term of abuse or derogatory term) is a word or grammatical form that connotes negativity and expresses contempt or distaste.
     
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    No. Because it doesn't have the historical weight of the N word.

    The word cracker, if my memory serves me right, is derived from the crack of a whip.

    So even the term itself is based on white people having power or control (or ownership) over slaves.

    So yeah, it's not a racist comment.
     
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    Yes sir. Conservatives tend to be a little more racist against Blacks. But the general survey is only on whites and their view on Blacks. We haven't seen studies on black liberals and their view on white people. Like I said before. Racism is on both sides. There are Blacks that are racist towards whites. Anyone that disagrees isn't paying attention.
     
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    right, nobody claims that liberals arent racist at all, just that conservatives are MORE racist
     

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