Republicans, can I ask an honest question about racism

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Why historical context matters.

    White men overpowered black men, calling them the N word before stringing them up or burning down their neighborhoods. When a black man heard the word, it was reason to fear for his life. The murders and tortures were brutal. The damage done to black enterprise, community, and family cannot be understated.

    There is nothing even close to that context when cracker is used. And cracker isn't a derogatory word, it's a reminder of the physical dominance of whites over blacks over the centuries.

    If anything, cracker is anti-racist. Racism requires an element of superiority of one race over others or inferiority of one race compared to others. I don't see the superiority/inferiority (blacks saying whites are inferior) in cracker.

    FWIW
     
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    False.
     
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    Define racism. I've defined it a few times. My definition agrees with Merriam-Webster. You use the word like it means something else entirely.
     
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    I'll spell it out for you since you're confused:

    Whites were split 50-50 between Obama and Clinton.
    Clearly there wasn't a huge difference in their policies.
    97% of blacks voted for Obama.

    And now you're trying to claim that race had nothing to do with the difference between a 50-50 split and a 93-3 split.

    Ignorant or just playing dumb.
     
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    If two candidates were very similar with respect to their policies, and the female candidate received 97% of women's votes, then yes, sex was a factor in the decision.
     
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    Cool story bro. You should have started a new thread for that ramble that wasn't related to the original topic.
     
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    Nowhere in Merriam-Webster is there any reference to historical context.

    From merriam-webster's second entry:

    racisim: racial prejudice or discrimination.


    You're wrong Denny.
     
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    It's entirely related to the original topic. If YOU are trying to make the case that black people are racist for voting for Obama and that they're democrats...

    Go read the first post and get back to me, bro.
     
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    in how many of their decisions?
     
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    I didn't say "black people are racist". I pointed to the stats from the 2008 primaries. Are you disagreeing with the stats? Do you really think it was policy differences that resulted in most demographics closely split between Clinton and Obama except for a 97-3 split among black voters?

    I have a bridge to sell you.
     
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    I don't understand that question.
     
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    What is the first part you deliberately ignored?

    "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

    I'm right :)
     
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    Do you know how to read a dictionary? There is a reason for multiple entries.
     
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    bb, can you site this 97% with a link? curious as to the details of it
     
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    No, I think black people were thrilled at the chance to vote for someone that looks like them for a change. That they expected a CHANGE in the form of a different kind of treatment by govt. (that didn't happen). So yeah, it was policy differences, among other things.
     
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    I know how to use a dictionary. Now go look up prejudice. It's still not racism, even using some absurdly liberal definition of the word.
     
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    Yes, racism. Your argument is so ridiculous I'll just assume you're trolling and accept your apology.
     
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    False.
     
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    Now you need to look up "false" because you don't seem to know what it means.
     
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    You're out of control Denny, and looking pathetic.

    prejudice: preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge

    Yep, that could easily explain the 97-3 split between Obama and Clinton. Or are you going to argue that the differences in their policies would only affect the black voters?
     
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