Cavs trade with Memphis

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  1. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Speights, Selby, Ellington and a 1st for John freaking Leuer?

    Portland should have been all over that deal for literally any of our bench players
     
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    They didn't want our crap, they need to get under the luxury tax.
     
  3. speeds

    speeds $2.50 highball, $1.50 beer Staff Member Administrator GFX Team

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    That's just to get off the hook for tax this season. With rising player salaries they are back in tax range again next season. They're pruning the roster but they have to cut one of the branches sooner or later.
     
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    Wow great deal for the Cavs I think, depending on the pick's protection.
     
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    I would have done that deal for Hickson, those would be our 6,7, and 8th men off the bench.
     
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    Sweet deal for the Cavs. Allows Memphis to keep Gay and the rest of the corps, at least for now.

    As a Warriors fan, glad to see the Grizz's bench weaken. Seemed like all three of those guys did well against us whenever we played them.
     
  7. Natebishop3

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    They're getting a trade exception. Immediate cap relief. They wouldn't have wanted our guys.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    This does underscore one thing though, when you aren't a very good team (like the Cavs) it pays to keep your salary flexibility.
     
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    Yup. It's too bad so much of our cap space is tied up in names like Luke Babbitt, Nolan Smith, and Ronnie Price.
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    memphis did it to get under the LT. They didn't want anyone coming back.
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    Awesome, good to know I'm only about 12 hours late to this party.
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    Gee, does this mean we can't trade one of our "whities" for somebody else's "blacky"?
     
  15. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    depends. Are we trading whitie herzog for blacky carter?
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    How about JoJo White for Charlie Black?
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    With an assist to Whitey Skoog and Rolondo Blackman?
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    Trade didn't make sense for the Blazers as Clevland added salary.

    But I did notice that Pargo is available. He can score off the bench . . .
     
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    Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

    Nice of you to show up FAMS!
     
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    I've been going back and forth on this trade all day, and for me, it raises questions about the luxury tax, Rudy Gay, and Hollinger.

    It was an inevitability that the Grizzlies would make a trade before the deadline to get under the luxury tax. We knew it'd essentially be a cap dump, whether it was Rudy Gay or a package of reserves. However, the mere fact that this was an "inevitability" makes me question not only the qualifications for ownership of small market teams but also the luxury tax in general. One of the objectives of a luxury tax is to protect the small market teams, but at the end of the day, it really just winds up marginalizing them.

    With the dump being inevitable though, I think it was an interesting move to dump a package of reserves and a draft pick (with very favorable conditions for the Cavs) rather than dumping Gay. While Rudy Gay leads the team in scoring, he's shooting 41.3% (third worst in the league for players over 250 FG's), only has a 1.03 A/TO ratio, and is just a selfish black-hole of a player on the court in general. He's essentially addition by subtraction, which begs the question, why did the "stats guy," John Hollinger not trade him instead? Was Rudy Gay really untradable? Did every single team in the NBA turn down Rudy Gay's albatross of a contract?

    And on the subject of Hollinger, this was the first disturbing move of a new era in Memphis. The cap dump is disturbing enough, but apparently John Hollinger actually has long-term plans for Leuer with the organization, based on his advanced metrics, despite the fact that inserting him into the line-up is probably going to detract from the team's chemistry and defensive mantra. I don't like the way this team's going, with an owner that's looking to cut corners to pinch pennies and a GM who bases his decision making on algorithms.
     

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