We should be ringing Denver immediately this summer!

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    Say that he does opt in, thinking he is not worth anywhere near the 16M he is due for only one year. Teams like Minnesota will be lined up with cap space to take that contract for only one year.
     
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    You used Richard Jefferson as an example; but you didn't know all the reasons why he opted out. In that article, he was being hammered by the local media, coaching staff and fan base. He needed to get out of there. In Denver, Karl actually likes him, the fans like him and the media isn't harping on him.

    I think he would easily be able to get the 16 million this season and find another team to give him a multi-year contract for 8-9 mil per. That's his true value. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Denver be the team to resign him.

    And if he does "opt in"; denver will be paying a huge premium for his services. And my deal of shedding massive salary is even more valid.
     
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    Wow Minnesota will have a lot of cap space. It will be interesting to see how much they are willing to spend to keep Pekovic?
     
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    In terms of a player opting out for their benefit; Gerlad Wallace did a fine job. But he was able to get a multi-year contract close to the same "per year" pay as his opt out contract. In that regard, it was a good choice. But... I suspect he was already told that contract will be waiting for him. He almost immediately resigned with New Jersey.
     
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    I used Richard Jefferson as an example because it is the exact same situation. He was not worth what the last year of his contract was going to pay him. However, he agreed to a longer deal with a cap friendly number to keep SA under the tax while getting more long term money. If his true value is 8-9M, opting out of a one year deal at 16 for a 4 yr 48M makes perfect sense for both parties.
     
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    I don't think it makes sense for Iggy when he can get the 16 MIL for 1 year and then get the 8 or 9 deal for 3 years or so after that. It really only makes sense for Iggy if he wants to stay in DEN long-term and help them out. Is that his mindset? I don't know.
     
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    Remember how Nic did not count against our cap till we matched his offer sheet? The same will be in effect for Pek. Roy comes off their books and have pieces to send back to Denver. They would not absorb the entire 16M without salary going back or to a third team.
     
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    Why risk waiting when you can essentially sign that 3 yr deal now?

    Denver ends up paying more, but does not have to maneuver to avoid the tax.
     
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    But in your sceanrio, with accepting a reduced "multi-year" contract; still puts them close to luxury tax. It really doesn't help Denver in this regard. It would be only if Iggs opts out and they just let him go.
     
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    I edited my post above. I meant to say how much will they be willing to spend on Pekovic. Not how much they will have. They obviously have plenty to spare, but I wonder what Khan's fantasy plan is.
     
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    Seeing how he could not get anyone to take his money last offseason and had to largely overspend on AK, I still think they match any offers for Pek. That would even be if they could trade for AI without sending out any other salary.
     
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    Signing that deal now nets you less money. So unless you are helping the team out (as I said) or worried about injury... 16 MIL is a LOT of dough even for millionaires.
     
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    I have seen many players give up one big year to secure 4 years of guaranteed money. And it makes sense.

    If Iggy got a 4 yr 48M contract, I think he would jump on it. Why wait one year, where you can get hurt and the likelyhood of improving your game is low? Just sign the contract and you know you have 48M coming to you no matter what happens to your health or game. That 48M, alone, can be given to a financial planner who will ensure a comfortable life for the player and his extended family for the rest of their lives.

    This summer will be interesting, but I don't see Iggy getting an offer of 48M for 4 yrs. They are trying to create a league where you can really only have 2 max players, and any huge contract after that will hurt. 12M/yr for Iggy will really limit a team.

    But how about 4 yr at 30M. Do you do that or play one year for 16M and see if you can get a 20M+ contract the next year. I guess that is what agents are for . . .
     
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    You just need to be under the tax by $1.

    And to further clarify why I used Jefferson as an example, you showed plenty of reasons why he opted out according to the media. Still, San Antonio resigned him to a deal that was far above market value. It is my belief that the agent and team agreed upon a contract that would be a fallback if no other team offered as much. No other team did, they gave him the contract, the Spurs avoid the tax, then they trade him later to a better fit.

    Conspiracy theory, yes. However, it makes too much sense.
     
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    opts in
    16M for one year then signs a three year deal for 27M = 43M

    48M is greater than 43M.
     
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    Those are your made up numbers though. We don't know what he is going to get after his contract is up and I certainly don't think he gets 48 MIL if he opts out this year. He is not a 12 mil per year player next year (even though he will get paid 16 MIL if he comes back).
     
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    Do you really think he can get 12 million per year for 4 years?
     
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    Iggy is only 29. It's not like he is looking for one last contract. Not sure there is any reason for him to opt out? He will be a FA the following year, and at 30, he should at worst easily get the MLE from someone for several years
     
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    McGee got it last offseason. JJ Reddick is supposedly asking for 40M.
     
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    Let's really break down AI's contract ranking in the league.

    He ranks #21 in the entire NBA, #9 in the Western Conference, #3 in the Northwest and #3 of all the SFs.

    That is way overpriced. The reality should be 9-10 million per. So let's say he gets a contract extension of 4 years 38 million offer now. That would put him in that average to his ability, etc. I would say offers will be at 4 years 35 million.

    What if Iggs played next season out @ $16 mil, then signs a 4 year 25 million contract (well below the league average). That is 41 million for the next 5 years. Personally, I would take my chances and get an additional $6 million.

    Even if Iggs got injured next season, even a season ending one, he would easily get a 4 year 25 million contract.
     

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