Official 2013 Draft thread

I wasn't putting out "logic" that it's better to draft at #12 than #18. Don't twist my words. I was simply showing that the draft if a crap shoot, and there's talent to be had throughout. You just have to have faith in the management. But since we do have to pay up, I would much rather pay up with the #12 pick in a weak draft than #18 in a strong draft.

 

I'm not denying that. But if you have to pay the Bobcats with a draft pick..... You give up a weak lotto in a weak draft.

I'd hedge on this draft. That's my opinion. I'd rather get into the playoffs, create a winning atmosphere, and have more cap space than keep this weak pick. Losing and the lotto is for losers.

 

This is not what you mean, I don't think anyway? I believe you mean the opposite. I would still rather have every opportunity to draft the better player in a weak draft than hope a player is there in a stronger one. Even strong drafts have busts, as we know all too well. I misread this. sorry. It's exactly what you mean

 

Like OKC and Miami were losers in the lotto

 

Yeah, but you're beating on something that wasn't even the initial point. My point was since we absolutely have to give the Bobcats a pick (READ: we OWE them, it's not a "FREE" asset as you declared it), I'd rather give them a weak lotto pick in a weak draft.

 

For every OKC and Miami; I raise old Clippers, Bucks, Detroit, Bobcats, Sacramento and Minny.

 

Yes, busts throughout. Successes throughout. With no true stars in this draft, no real difference-makers in this draft, I gladly give up this pick in a weak draft. The odds are against Portland finding a difference-maker in this draft if they are sitting at #12 or #18. If we're going to have cap space to make some acquisitions through free agency, I figured people would want to maximize that and improve more quickly, rather than tie up funds in what is likely going to be a scrub tying up dollars. Seems like common sense to me?

 

Clippers one of the best teams in the league, Detroit has been in the lottery exactly 3 years now, Minny made it to the conference finals with their lottery gem, and if Olshey is as bad as Kahn or McHale at GM, then my argument is over LOL

 

I will never understand this thinking, so let's agree to disagree.

 

Yes, and those teams hit rock bottom to re-build. We tried that and failed (albeit due to injuries). I think if we want to take that approach, then we need to completely take that type of approach, completely blow it up, and re-build (and hope you get lucky in some form or another, i.e. Durant, plus your GM has to make shrewd moves). But it's obvious management isn't going to take that approach.

 

Yeah that would suck! HAHAHa

Wait you said barely making the playoffs is purgatory? The Pistons had one year where they made the playoffs with a losing record and that counts? i would actually call their rebuild starting 2007. That's over 5 years.

 

Totally agreed. Because I can't agree to think of this year only. I can't just simply look at this year's draft. I have to look at the whole picture: future drafts, free agency, etc. Looking at this year's draft only gets us nowhere. I was under the impression we wanted to maximize our strategies and resources to improving the team, not just considering our potentially weak lotto spot in a weak draft.

 

I really like his ability to stop and shoot on a dime. There are a lot of guys who can get to the rim, but you don't see too many guys out there that can stop their drive and knock down a jumper that smoothly.

I wonder what Ryan Kelly's recent play is doing for his stock. He's having another great all-around performance tonight.

 

I'd have to agree. I think he's been given more credit on the defensive end than he deserves, as well. He's capable of being a stopper, like when he had that monster block in the first half, but with all the Duke games I've seen, I haven't seem him give consistent effort on the defensive end. Like in the Kentucky game, for example, there were several plays where he was just drifting defensively and completely lost sight of Poythress.

If I'm taking anyone from this Duke team in the 2nd round, I think I'd gamble on Seth Curry.

 

- Damian Lillard on his facebook 15 minutes ago

 

I'll take Zags' opinion on college hoop players over Dame's thank you.

 

I agree with Lillard. Oladipo's a baller.

 

I've only seen him play twice and after looking at his game logs, they were two of his worst games. As a hypothetical, how well would he fit in our starting lineup?