Who wanted Monroe?!

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    What's really retarded. Anything outside of rim is 33% or worse by Monroe. So that 61% close is actually 33%! Lol

    And that 74% outside is at least 40%. So basically the worst shot by Aldridge is better than the 0-10ft by Monroe. They are almost identical around the rim.

    So who's better offensively again?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The ones where he plays defense. You maybe watching hickson and Leonard. That's who I saw using your example
     
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    VanillaGorilla Well-Known Member

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    Hickson tries he's just an idiot. Leonard does things just to do them. Like his awful hedging of screens. Those are problems of knowledge and skill. LaMarcus' problem is not trying. The point of this thread was that Monroe is more of a perimeter player than Aldridge. That is retarded.
     
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    You must have reading comprehension issues. I said Monroe is a perimeter player; which almost 48% of his shots are from the perimeter. And anything outside the rim is less than 33%.

    I brought up Aldridge to explain what you fools complain about. Monroe loves the perimeter shot. Maybe not as much as Aldridge, but Aldridge is actually much more efficient at his worst than Monroe's best outside shot
     
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    The differences between their eFG% and TS% is .02, one for LaMarcus, one for Greg. Even though LA is more efficient from the perimeter, Monroe's overall offensive efficiency is pretty much the same as Aldridge. That's Aldridge as a 27 year old and Monroe as a 22 year old.

    And everyone forgets about passing. Passing is a huge part of offense, and Monroe is much better than Aldridge. Monroe's assist percentage is only 2 points lower than Batum's.

    Pretty much saying Monroe sucks makes no sense, he has virtually he same level of production as LaMarcus.
     
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    This is the exact type of comment that can be appropriately replied to using the sentence: "He's still only 22."

    Does LA take the exact same shots he did when he was 22?
     
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    You are forgetting the most important factor. Monroe isn't the #1 or #2 defensive assignment. And most of his "efficiency" is from putbacks, just like hickson. Are you saying hickson is better than Aldridge offensively?

    The fucking advanced stats guys have no analog in factoring how Aldridge opens the game for others. Stick to math buddy...
     
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    http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2012/03/detroit_pistons_greg_monroe_ma.html

    Aldridge isn't the only guy who routinely gets doubled.
     
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    Source?
     
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    The defense thing is blasphemy as well. Monroe has a better DRtg and DWS on a team that all around is worse defensively than the Blazers.
     
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    Truth.

    Rep.
     
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    Actually you may want to look at the shot charts. Not only did Aldridge shoot better at the age 22; he scored more points than Monroe. So go ahead and use the age factor.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01/shooting/2009/
     
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    Who are the #1 and #2 guys on the Pistons Mags, and like VG I'd like to see your source on the putbacks comment.
     
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    Same source as you. But it's pretty obvious wouldn't you think? If he shoots 33% or worse anywhere but at the rim; he's mainly tossing in put backs or garbage plays.
     
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    That's no different than anyone here saying Aldridge is a bad defender.
     
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    Pretty sure Mags made a thread a few weeks ago showing Aldridge was a good post defender.
     
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    Aldridge averaged (per36) one more point, 2 less assists, and 3 less rebounds than Monroe at 22. Aldridge shot 48.4%, Monroe shoots 48%. Their TS% are exactly the same, 52.3%. How was Aldridge better at 22?
     
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    Just as there are threads showing he's a bad defender. What's the difference, besides your opinion?
     
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    The per 36 is a joke. And we can use the major complaint of zags as proof. Zags says the last 12 minutes if the game; Aldridge is non existent; therefor the time on the floor is when he is least productive.

    I would bet a thousand bucks Monroe would be god awful if we expect him to play 38 minutes a game
     

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