Science and Religion questions

Bingo! Wouldn't that be insane? We go in thinking we know our purpose then we meet our creator and he's some programer.

 

if you look at reproduction rates Islam will be very soon, possibly in your lifetime. Christians better step up the breeding.

 

Trip, it's funny that you mention the matrix. There is so much reference to Christianity in there it's crazy.

The main programer is "god"; who can't see the gray area. It's either right or wrong.

Neo is Jesus who doesn't truly understand his true purpose only until the end and sacrifices himself for all humanity.

You have the oracle who reminds me if satan; who plants seeds in our minds to mess up God's perfect world.

And you have Morpheus who reminds me of Paul; that spreads the faith that neo is Jesus and will save all humanity.

And then you have trinity; who reminds me of Mary, in love with Jesus because he truly understands the purpose of Jesus.

Then you have Zion; which are followers that want to believe in a savior they cannot see.

Then you have the people in the matrix that don't believe the matrix even exists.

And then you have agent smith; who represents the anti-Christ; who eventual gains control of the entire world; only to be stopped by Neo.

 

Muslims believe in the same God, FYI.

 

So you don't consider that whole "Jesus is God" thing to be very significant?

 

Yeah -- it's about as subtle as a bo-staff to the head. ;D

 

In my faith it's absolutely significant. But Jews and Muslims believe in the same god as Christians. Only difference is the Jews don't believe in Christ and Muslims believe Jesus was just a profit.

 

I didn't say we shouldn't ask the question, but at the same time we should be aware that as far as we know the best answer to 'why is there something instead of nothing' may be 'why not!'

 

I'm going to bump this since no one responded.

 

I understand that. My question is whether or not they are actually the "same god" without Jesus. There's no question they have the same historical and cultural roots, but that doesn't make them "the same".

 

Good point. I can relate to that response.

 

I saw it, and I think they are good, interesting questions. I didn't reply because I don't know the answers.

 

For the first 100 or so years after Jesus death and resurrection; Christians still practiced Jewish law. Christians still believe that "God the father" is still the Jewish and Muslim God. The major difference is Christians now look to Christ as "God the son"; who is separate from God the father; but just as connected to us as God.

This would be like the difference between a communist atheist or Dawkins atheist.

 

Yeah I don't know why young earth Christians don't use this more often.

 

I truly wish that more Christians and Muslims had such a liberal outlook.

 

I don't know man. Those very liberal communist atheists killed a shit ton of people because they didn't adopted their way of thinking.

 

You still can't wrap your head around the notion that "I don't know the answer to that question" does not equate to "everything you say must be true"...

Someday.

 

My momma taught me that two wrongs don't make a right.

(And yes, I am we'll aware that 3 lefts do. )

 

No I understand that. I'm just saying right now; it's a damn good argument that the universe isn't as old as some people think. Maybe it took more than just a few minutes. Maybe in a few minutes was all you needed; if you aren't bound by the natural laws of physics during the Big Bang.

 

according to inflationary theory, which hasn't been completely confirmed yet.

the age of the universe is calculated based on the ratio of expansion rate vs. distance for many other galaxies, not distance to a furthest object.

currently unknown

we know we CAN'T see the farthest regions.