As opposed to the good old USA. Girl is carried naked and unconscious from party to party, raped and urinated on? How dare she destroy the boys' lives by reporting it. The slut wanted it anyway. Or it wasn't a legitimate rape. Or it was god's will. Or sponsor a bill that makes it a felony for a rape victim to have an abortion because she's destroying evidence. Or threaten a University of North Carolina student with expulsion for publicly talking about being raped on campus because she is embarrassing the rapist. Or force a teen girl raped by her minister to publicly apologize to the congregation for "tempting" him. All of which happened. Or denounce a married rape victim for "adultery". You can find quotes just as bad in any patriarchal religion.
Actually abortion after rape wouldn't destroy evidence because the aborted baby would have the DNA of the father. Also, after rape; you can simply do a DNA sperm test inside the woman for proof. But actually; what if the woman wasn't raped and she lied? So is it fair to send an innocent man to prison because maybe the girl was pissed that the guy gave her a one night stand? And how will you prove when a woman rapes another woman? Does she get a pass? With woman equality in full effect; they should make rape laws more strict. If a woman cries rape and lies; there should be prison time. If the man or woman rapes; they need prison time. Give punishment on both sides.
She'll probably say that women don't do that since she thinks they're so much better than men (lol). Which will be bullshit cause it happens all the fucking time and all it takes is one false rape accusation to ruin a man's life. Don't even get me started on the domestic violence scams women pull. The laws regarding things of that sort are becoming anti-men, not equal.
Someone at work, his ex was caught on a nanny-cam threatening to call the cops and tell them he was abusing her. The video even shows her slapping her own face a half dozen times. During that, the guy is just sitting calmly on a chair. Apparently, she went into the other room to call 911, he got the recording and just waited for the police on the front lawn, but they never came. It turned out she did not call 911. He later used the recording to get restraining order.
It is the punishment, though. It's a much more serious offense than (many) actual crimes. What I meant by asking what they would say is that even moderate Muslims have been slow to accept atheism and denounce punishment for apostates.
Hoojacks from previous threads seems more agnostic atheist than Muslim, but I would suggest he has many family or friends in the culture. He seems to know the culture pretty well. With that said, I think the overall concept of the Muslim faith isn't as aggressive as you think. It's the radicals that give the religion a bad name. Look at the extremists of Christianity and atheism.... There have been extreme cases on all accounts. The problem isn't religion, it's belief and thinking your belief is better than everyone else. You tend to force your views on other people and when they resist, you get angry and use force. It is human nature and only ones that can openly discuss all walks can live peacefully among others that don't share your views.
But that's what most religion is -- having beliefs that are true relative to one's Tradition. While many Christians presumably are religious pluralists, that is not part of their Jesus doctrine or myth; it's more a part of a modern worldview -- part of a larger culture. And ... scientific believing, for instance, is demonstrably superior to magical thinking (believing). Seems to me you use this fallacious formulation (quoted above) for self comfort -- the illusion that your nutty, magical beliefs are on par with beliefs grounded in reason and practical experience. Also, atheism isn't a belief system anymore than not collecting stamps is a hobby, but feel free to argue against any of these points.
Yeah those scientific moral atheist that murdered well over 100 million people get a pass because they don't believe in magic! I like your style.... Shall we call it rubber and I'm glue? Stay in the playground? Keep that banter there. We are adults. Big kids are talking.
What scientific moral atheists murdered well over 100 million people? You would need to state specifically what you are referring to here. As such it's simply a fallacious claim. It's certainly not a matter of any history. And again, atheism is not a belief system (you read the hobby/belief analogy, right? Is my hobby NOT collecting stamps if I do not collect stamps?). Just exactly what 'atheist beliefs' do you see at work in these alleged murders? If you have some historic events in mind it should be easy for you to i) provide the motivating atheist beliefs and ii) to establish their role in these murders. I think you are confusing your attempts at deflection with style. I call what I do a dialectic, or at least, that's the idea, but getting you to actually engage with what is written is another matter. If you reply to my posts in the future, I'd really appreciate it if you could manage to engage something of the actual post in your response. When you respond as you have been, it just seems like you aren't serious. Yes, great example. You really need to take this last part to heart. Your responses consist of mostly deflection. This isn't dodge ball. I've placed plenty on your plate. Feel free to dig in.
It would seem that way, but I've seen him actually boast of his open-mindedness ... and yet, whenever he's given an opening ... he runs from intellectual engagement. I don't think he understands that magical thinking is a description rather than an insult.
Well to be fair, it's both. At least on these boards it has been used as both a description and insult.
Well, then _two_ plagues on all his houses -- how dare he assume such ill will. I fear he'd have acted the same if "religious" was used instead. At any rate, there's nothing to stop him now -- now that it's been cleared up. It's just so odd to see such blatant boundaries past which his self-questioning cannot go. Of course ... you know what I'm thinking; you know my heart is true. Send him a dream. Tell him I mean him no harm.
