Sacramento/Seattle Kings Update

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by THE HCP, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    WOWSERS! This is crazy. Stern strikes again!
     
  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2008
    Messages:
    16,260
    Likes Received:
    829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Hood River, OR
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
     
  3. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    122,986
    Likes Received:
    122,997
    Trophy Points:
    115
  4. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    In theory couldn't Hansen and the SEA group still buy the Kings yet keep them in SAC for the foreseeable future? Their NBA bid was still the best one for the Maloofs.
     
  5. Rhal

    Rhal Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2009
    Messages:
    12,997
    Likes Received:
    2,756
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    UPS
    Location:
    Portland
    They could and they could keep applyng for relocation every year

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
     
  6. Boise Blazer

    Boise Blazer Thread Lightly

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,260
    Likes Received:
    2,585
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Hmmm interesting response. I dont have a problem with any of it nor agree or disagree. Simply an observation. Carry on.
     
  7. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    7,956
    Likes Received:
    4,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle

    As I understand it, if the bond defaults the City can collect the default against Hansen and maybe others personally. Also, if there are cost overruns, that is Hansen's problem too.

    http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Chris-Hansen-personally-guarantees-Sodo-arena-3856793.php

    Also, there are several protections in place.

    http://www.sonicsarena.com/info/sonics-arena-faq

    My point is that there has to be an investor who wants to make the partnership with the City and make the personal guarantee for there to be a comparable situation. They will usually only do this if there is money to be made. I don't think there is any money to be made in the public oriented goals you are talking about, but I could be wrong. I am not a billionaire either, so I have never really looked into it.

    Well, I mean that the odds that these portions of the city's credit were going to be used are extremely minimal. By the city extending this credit, they are not losing out on any realistic opportunities that I can conceive of. This credit is more akin to rainy day credit that is never used. They are still leaving additional rainy day credit so even if something extraordinary happens, there should not be any major problems for the City. So there is not any realistic lost opportunity for the city to have used their credit for some other worthwhile goal. It was never going to be used. I think I heard on the radio some months ago that there is $900 million in available credit, and the City is using $200 million for this deal. I could be wrong, but that is what I recall.
     
  8. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    7,956
    Likes Received:
    4,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle
    I guess so. Then they could pull a Clay Bennett. If I were Hansen though I would just say no.
     
  9. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Most say that there is no hope of expansion for at least 5 years. So another team would have to apply for relocation if Hansen passes on this deal to buy the Kings.

    Will another team bother to try to relocate, in the near future, to SEA after this vote was so unanimous? I don't think so.
     
  10. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    7,956
    Likes Received:
    4,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle
    But Sacramento says they are going to build a new arena. If the Kings don't relocate this year, there is no way they relocate after building a new arena. Maybe he will buy the team and see if Sacramento makes good on their arena deal.
     
  11. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    Besides bowing out that is the only other option I see for them. The SAC arena deal is not perfect according to a lot of reports. So maybe they gamble that it will fall through with the city.
     
  12. porkchopexpress

    porkchopexpress Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,628
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    48
    So what happens if new final proposal is seen as a joke and they reject that as well? Now that the Seattle group is essentially out of it (unless he wants to look like Bennett) they don't have any real incentive to solidify/increase their offer. Could this mean 1 more year of shitty Maloof ownership?
     
  13. KeepOnRollin

    KeepOnRollin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2010
    Messages:
    11,497
    Likes Received:
    5,679
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    North Idaho
    And what happens to the 30 MIL nonrefundable deposit that SEA paid to the Maloofs? I think someone (maybe even the NBA themselves) should have to pay Hansen back for that. And yes I know what nonrefundable means however this seems almost like collusion to undermine SEAs bid.
     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2013
  14. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,836
    Likes Received:
    55,493
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    What does Stern have against the Pac NW?
     
  15. Sedatedfork

    Sedatedfork Rip City Rhapsody

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2008
    Messages:
    7,956
    Likes Received:
    4,362
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Seattle
    You are not going to be able to make both cities happy. Why don't they just disband the Kings? Problem solved.
     
  16. mobes23

    mobes23 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,254
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Wow, this is going to get pretty interesting. Wonder if Hansen will stay level headed or get PO'd and blow things up. He's got some interesting decisions to make...
     
  17. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    10,738
    Likes Received:
    5,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Trolling the internet
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    Let's hope it changes when Silver takes over, but he has been Stern's ward for a long time.
     
  18. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,836
    Likes Received:
    55,493
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Buy the Kings, trade everyone for table scraps, and tank until nobody wants to watch the team anymore.

    It worked in Charlotte.

    It worked in Seattle.

    It will work in Sacramento.
     
  19. santeesioux

    santeesioux Just keep on scrolling by

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2008
    Messages:
    10,738
    Likes Received:
    5,311
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Trolling the internet
    Location:
    Southern Oregon
    DeMarcus Cousins for the 10th pick!
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2008
    Messages:
    92,836
    Likes Received:
    55,493
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Portland, OR
    Why the hell not?
     

Share This Page