Religious belief stifling U.S. climate change action

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  1. VanillaGorilla

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    Maybe I'm the atheist you can all hate.


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    Finally, I'm beginning to get some insight into Denny.
     
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    I am an agnostic. I don't believe in the Bible or organized religion at all.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The problem isn't the United States. Right now I'd say it's China and India.
     
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    What's the definition of organized religion?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_religion

    Organized religion (or organised religion—see spelling differences), also known as institutional religion, is religion as a social institution,[1] in which belief systems and rituals are systematically arranged and formally established.[2] Organized religion is typically characterized by an official doctrine (or dogma), a hierarchical or bureaucratic leadership structure, and a codification of rules and practices.

    The term organized religion is frequently used in the mass media to refer to the world's largest religious groups,[3][4] especially those known by name internationally, and also refers to organizations to which one can legally or officially affiliate oneself with or not.[5]
     
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    Organized religion sucks. The church stands forever, though.
     
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    I don't hate any atheists. I certainly bristle at your tone much of the time though.
     
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    Denny, when was the last time you opened a Holy Bible? Just curious.
     
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    You're close.

    Denny believes that Denny has a set expiration date, so any effort to preserve the Earth for Denny after that date would be ultimately futile, and hence ill-advised.
     
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    Who do you think their un-regulated emission-puking factories are making products for?
     
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    That's not true. I'm not opposed to "any" efforts to be ecologically friendly.

    I am opposed to drumming up fear using a natural process (warming) for the purpose of destroying civilization as we know it so some anti-capitalist version can take its place.
     
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    For their own middle class that's larger than our entire population.
     
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    The Rapture is also the reason some Christian politicians are so adamant in their support for Israel.
     
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    Not singling you out but I hear this excuse a lot and I disagree with it. Ignoring the part where factories in countries are making cheap Walmart products for us. The US is the leader in technology and development, if we build it eventually the rest of the world will follow. Example is the internet, we built it, invested billions of dollars in wired internet infrastructure to make the internet available in most US homes while it was largely unavailable to most of the rest of the world, especially developing nations. The next step in the internet development was making it more available and easier to access, which brought in wifi and 3g then 4g and BOOM the whole world has the internet almost overnight, without investing in costly wired infrastructure. We bear the brunt of the development, make something awesome and the whole world eventually benefits, and we get Russian dashboard cams.
     
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    I don't think much of this is right.

    While we were building our Internet, there were similar efforts going on in Europe and Asia. The expense of running the wires in China was so prohibitive, their only real choice was wireless. In 2000, about 5 years after Internet was commercially available, there was Internet access in Mexico.
     
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    I thought the inventor of the Internet was English? I remember he was part of the England Olympics as one of the great contributors of the world. They even talked about it.
     
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    You guys take things so literal sometimes. I didn't mean the US was solely responsible for every aspect of the internet. The point here is that our country was a major driving force behind it, from the R&D to consumer demand and daily use of it. Just like we should be for eco and green technologies.
     
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    Eco and green technologies cost $2 for every $1 sold. Do it in large scale and we'll go broke. Oops, we already have!
     
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