The OFFICIAL 2013 NBA Playoffs Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by KingSpeed, Apr 19, 2013.

  1. KingSpeed

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    It was just because Jail rhymes with Trail. Other teams had more thugs than we did.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yeah. ... didn't exactly help out all that much when it was all said and done

    hoop fam
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    It was always about winning.

    hoop fam
     
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    The move worked. Blazers were a much better team after Randolph left and there's really no debating that. Not only that, but if Randolph was kept, a decision between him and Aldridge would have had to have been made at the 4. Trading the grossly overrated chucker to let the now arguably best PF in the game develop does seem to have been the right move.
     
  5. KingSpeed

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    Bullshit. I debate it. The Blazers improved from 21 wins to 32 wins with Randolph on the team in Roy's rookie year. Roy then improved as did Outlaw, Webster, and others. If Randolph had stayed with the team, we would've been a playoff team the next year. Without him, we weren't.
     
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    Also, Randolph had the best post game in the league then and he has the best post game in the league now.
     
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    If you can increase your win total dramatically without grossly overpaying an overrated chucker, you do it.

    Trade made complete total sense from all areas.
     
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    We paid Steve Francis $30 million to get rid of Randolph. That gave us capspace to end up ultimately with Jared Jeffries.
     
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    I guess Wesley Matthews doesn't count?

    Money got off the books 2 years sooner which obviously gives them more cap flexibility 2 years sooner. Smart teams make that move every single time instead of grossly overpaying a player.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Matthews was signed with the MLE, how is he relevant?
     
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    I meant Andre Miller.

    The main point is the Blazers weren't going to pay Aldridge and Randolph big contracts. A choice was going to have to be made, and the Blazers made it.

    For the people that cry about value for Randolph, get real. His game was criticized for being a black hole one offense. Add to that that he had who many viewed as the worst contract in the league (because of $ and it ran through the 2010 FA) and the Blazers were never going to get value for Randolph. This is pretty basic stuff to understand.

    The Blazers traded Randolph and never looked back. They got immediately better without grossly overpaying him, and now they have a PF who is better than him.
     
  12. magnifier661

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    The trade came after we selected oden yes; but if we decided to keep Zach; we would have picked Durant and kept Zach. Get it?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I think if we decided to keep Zach; we would have moved Aldridge to center and he would arguably be the best center in the league. Having Durant would have made us into one of the best teams in the nba hands down.

    Then you have two players Zach and Aldridge both able to post up and you have one of the scariest teams in the nba. Oh forgot to mention Roy too
     
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    But would we have been better if we kept Zach and picked Durant?
     
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    Wow, that would have been amazing.
     
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    Yes we should have, but I doubt we would have. At that time a Zach/ LMA front line would have looked to be a very poor defensive unit. We would have picked Oden regardless.
     
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    The team with zbo was a blown up team, of course its going to get better when rookies get older and you add more pieces. trading zbo facilitated nothing of value.

    as for LA vs ZBO....You then let whoever is better play more...simple as that. WE have desparately looking for low post scoring and rebounding since he left though.
     
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    He was a black hole on offense because there was no one else who could score on the team. He has been an allstar AND has gotten out of the second round of the playoffs several times already. And yet the blazers have shown poorly and are a borderline lottery team still. So to say its "worked out".......
     
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    Passing on Durant had a lot to do with Roy as well. We had our Franchise player/#1 option in Roy, as well as a recent very high lottery pick on the bench at the SF position in Webster.

    People weren't this pissed about trading Zach but about the value we got for him when we traded him, yes there were a few that wanted him to stay but not many. NY and La couldn't turn him into anything but a blackhole/glorified chucker who played no D , If he wasn't on a winning team people wouldn't be bringing him up
     
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    That doesnt' explain why he was a blackhole on offense for both of NY/Clippers and his first year with Memphis.
     

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