How many solar cells to power my house?

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    To go along with what Denny is saying that it's important to point out that solar cell technology will never either increase in efficiency and/or go down in cost.

    Also it's important to mention that under the theory of abiotic oil the earth will never run out of oil while the sun will eventually burn out.

    Solar cells are the betamax of energy technology.
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The numbers don't look realistic.

    For $780/month, you should have been buying at least 2x 6000 watts (144 kWh @ $.09 per)
     
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    Yes.
     
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    All I know is I have 50 panels on my house. I have two inverters to go along with the system. Tomorrow, I will look outside.
     
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    Well that sucks! I wish I got them!
     
  6. Denny Crane

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    You did. The price of your solar panels would have been much higher. Price divided by hours is what you pay for your electricity, so it's a discount.
     
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    Here's my math, feel free to correct it (anyone).

    6000 watts * 24 / 1000 = 144 kwh
    144 kwh * $.09/kwh = $12.96
    $12.86 * 365 days / 12 months = $394.20

    Or almost exactly 1/2 what you say your $780 bill was

    So it would seem you're using less than 1/2 the electricity you did (and enough less to contribute back to the grid). Or your bill isn't really $.99 like you say.

    Here in Southern California, you have to pay $20 minimum to the electric company even if you use zero electricity. I have a neighbor who built a new home with solar and told me there's no way to avoid paying at least the $20.
     
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    You are right!!!!

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1367811185.445543.jpg

    And I saw that its 50 panels x 250 watts = 12,500 watts
     
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    I went outside to take a picture. I could have sworn I saw 3k.
     
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    It looks to me like a single solar panel generates 80 watts in direct sun. 50 panels would be 4000 watts.

    4000 watts is enough power for 40 x 100 watt light bulbs, or 10 computers, or a moderate sized central air conditioning system, etc. A refrigerator uses about 1400 watts.

    The solar panels only work in the daylight, so you must be paying for electricity from the electric company for as many as 16 hours a day. Granted, you are paying for that power when your A/C doesn't need to work as hard, etc.
     
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    The panels were 250 watt panels. That's what it says on the contract
     
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    I have a large negro boy who runs on a giant hamster wheel in my backyard to keep my power flowin'!
     
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    12,000 watts makes sense if you really use 6000 and need to push 6000 to the grid to make up for night time and rainy days.
     
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    That's funny. I know a large negro boy who has you running on a giant hamster wheel.
     
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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jlprk again.
     
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    As a rep Scrooge, I commend Maris for receiving 1 of the 4 reps I have given in my almost 4 years on this board.

    You other 3, I forgot who you are, probably didn't deserve it. I was just feeling too generous those days.
     
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    Dang, I guess I'm spoiled but it's pretty stunning you had a $780 electric bill. Jesus. My highest ever was probably $150. But then I live about 10 miles from a federal government-built hydroelectric damn. I benefit from electricity that was subsidized in 1950, as do most gubmint-hatin' Idahoans.
     
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    Well the electric bill during fall and winter is smaller, but my average per month for the summer months are around $1,800. I live in the high desert where the summers are above 100.
     

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