Serious question

People get deported all the time.

If you want to increase the number being deported, INS needs a lot more money. Raise taxes?

 

Once word gets out of deportations, plenty will leave willingly.

I strongly disagree with Denny's characterization of how it would be done. The point is, it can be done.

 

I don't know on a national scale, but currently in Multnomah County jail, the feds have asked that anyone suspected of being illegal have a hold placed on them. MultCo has been doing this for years but it has gotten so out of hand that the jail is releasing people charged with a felony, sometimes violent felonies, so that they hold someone arrested for driving without a license because they are here illegally.

Finally . . . finally . . . MultCo said enough and starting releasing suspected illegal immigrants to hold the ones that pose a more serious threat to our community.

This immigration issue is not an easy answer to solve and will require more funds than the feds currently allocate to deal with this issue. I hope they get more funds and illegal immigration is dealt with swiftly and fairly.

(The ones that kill me are the ones that claim political asylum.)

 

Nonsense. Roughly 8 million illegal aliens currently receive public assistance of all sorts on a monthly basis from state and federal agencies, mostly by mail. It's no secret who they are or where they live. Several million a year have direct contact with police departments and could simply be handed over to ICE as several states are attempting to do already.

 

INS has all the money it needs already. DHS is simply spending most of it spying on legal citizens.

 

Nonsense.

They don't even have enough money to house the small percentage of illegal immigrants they are deporting during the deportation process. There is a real "practical" factor that comes in when talking these numbers.

 

I'm sorry but you don't know what you are talking about:

PORTLAND, Ore. – It's no secret the jail in Portland is full. Now Multnomah County's sheriff says he needs to start letting some suspected illegal immigrants go to make room for more serious criminals.

Sheriff Dan Staton says it's the best choice in a bad situation.

He doesn't want any inmates out early but faced with releasing some criminals who have committed violent crimes versus some illegals arrested for minor crimes, he says the choice is clear.

The federal government asks the sheriff and others to hold suspected illegal immigrants for 48 hours so Immigration and Customs Enforcement can investigate whether they're here illegally. The sheriff says if he holds them, he has to release other inmates.

Since the first of the month, the types of serious criminals who were released included those accused of unlawful use of a weapon, assault, robbery and attempt to elude, which means leading police on a car chase.



http://www.katu.com/news/local/Sher...-to-release-illegal-immigrants-200672021.html

 

Nice to see you on the Blame America First team.

Denny, you and I simply have a fundamental disagreement on the nature of what makes a citizen.

 

Again, you and I have a different view.

 

This also is wrong on so many levels.

First and foremost, what I said is not complete BS since a high ranking official is saying the exact same thing.

Second, release is a release. It may be supervised, but make no mistake it is releasing someone from jail. If you are going to draw a distinction. between supervised release, why don't they release the illegal immigrants to supervised release and hold the more serious people with crimes in jail (the way matriix is suppose to work). But in any event, the discussion was releasing people with more serious crimes from jail to hold petty crime illegal immigrants in jail . . . and thank god that is now happening in MULTCO. (Washington County needs to do the same.)

Third, it does not take a judges order to force the release of prisoners. That is a jail capacity issue and the jurisdiction of Multnomah County Sheriff's Office not the Multnomah County Circuit Court. You are confusing a judge allowing someone released on supervised supervision with the jail force releasing someone in spite of the fact the courts have put a bail hold them.

Fourth, dangerous criminals are being released from jail through a system implemented by the jail when they get over crowded. That is the whole issue issue the Sheriff raised, which by the way he was successful in changing policy . . . imagine that. It's because what he was saying was true and not as you say neglecting to give the whole truth.

 

BTW, it's not just the sheriff saying this.

Multnomah County Chair Jeff Cogen explains, "People who've been arrested locally, spent time in our jail, and the local jail time is over. But the federal government asks us to keep holding onto them anyway."

In theory, ICE would continue to investigate the detainees for immigration violations. But in practice, Multnomah County statistics show that over an eleven month period, ICE failed to act on over six hundred detainees' cases.

While the county can get a limited subsidy for housing the inmates, the county says taxpayers still picked up part of the bill.

Cogen says Commissioners have come to believe that the low-level offenders in this group do not belong in the county jail. These suspects were charged with anything from offensive littering to disorderly conduct to giving false information to police.

He notes Multnomah County is so strapped for resources that suspects accused of worse crimes are regularly released because the jail is full - thanks in part to beds reserved for ICE's I-247 detainers.

"I think this is primarily an issue of justice, about doing the right thing, but it definitely has budget implications," Jeff Cogen.