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  1. ABM

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Dissent_From_Darwinism

    At least one signatory of A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism has abandoned the list, saying he felt misled. Robert C. Davidson, a Christian, scientist, doctor, and retired nephrology professor at the University of Washington medical school said after having signed he was shocked when he discovered that the Discovery Institute was calling evolution a "theory in crisis". "It's laughable: There have been millions of experiments over more than a century that support evolution," said Davidson. "There's always questions being asked about parts of the theory, as there are with any theory, but there's no real scientific controversy about it. ... When I joined I didn't think they were about bashing evolution. It's pseudo-science, at best. ... What they're doing is instigating a conflict between science and religion."[49]
     
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    There will always be dissenters. What about the others?
     
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    What about them? If they all became dissenters that would no effect on your faith right?
     
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    What about them? Well, Denny seemed to allude to only one dissenter. My question was somewhat rhetorical in nature.

    That said, all the dissenters in the world would have no bearing on my faith in Jesus Christ.
     
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    Read the link. Most of them are pissed their names were associated with the scam.

    I picked a Christian for your benefit.
     
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    The article was good, thanks for that:

    http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2002450329_danny24.html

    I hear what they're saying. However, that said, I believe that people who call themselves Christians may, in fact, believe in certain aspects of evolution....over time, while also believing that God started up the engine, as it were.

    I may be deviating from the intent of the OP, but, bottom-line, evolution, or not, it purely boils down to creation itself. It was by God, or it was from something else. Evolution almost becomes semantics at that point.
     
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    Wait, what? So you believe in evolution but you're saying that god created it?
     
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    Sure, there's a certain amount of evolution in everything. Again, the bottom-line is, how did it get there in the first place? I vote God.
     
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    So you believe that man and apes evolved from a common ancestor? Birds evolved from dinosaurs?
     
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    Never said that at all. However, I do believe that the darker colors of skin "may" have something to do with exposure to the sun over generations upon generations upon generations....

    Evolution, of sorts, doesn't necessarily have to equate with Darwinism.
     
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    So you believe god created us white but we evolved black?
     
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    How would I have any idea what color God created man? I certainly don't lose any sleep wondering about it. :lol:
     
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    But you obviously have put some thought into how black people evolved. You just posted it.
     
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    I would think more the opposite; the skin pigmentation lessened over time in areas where it was not needed as greatly.
     
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    Yes, that was my point to ABM's "I do believe that the darker colors of skin "may" have something to do with exposure to the sun over generations upon generations upon generations...."
     
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    As far as I know, there's no reason to think it can't (didn't) shade in both directions, depending on environmental conditions. That said, it's simply conjecture on my part. As I mentioned, I certainly don't lose any sleep over the subject.
     
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    Blacks, Hispnics, Asians.....

    Sure, exposure to the sun over countless generations could have had an evolutionary impact. So what? Conjecture 101
     
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    I'm just trying to understand what you think god created evolution is. I gave you two examples of evolution that you rejected. You gave me one about people evolving from lighter to darker which is for a few different reasons wrong. Can you give me another example of what god created evolution is? I'm curious because I have never heard of this before and I'm trying to understand it.
     
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    Simple. I believe God created man (Adam & Eve) as the Bible states. How human civilization "potentially" evolved/developed in terms of length of life, immune systems, skin color, etc., etc. is not really relevant to the actual beginning (creation) itself. Apples and oranges conversation.
     

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