OT: Doc Rivers and Garnett to the Clippers?

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  1. RR7

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    Happened with Stan Van Gundy, Heat released him for a 2nd rounder and right to swap picks or something.
     
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    Rumors: NBA may block Celtics-Clippers trade. http://po.st/gOAydV
     
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    If I'm the Clips I do the Garnett for DeAndre Jordan deal first and then when that is finalized I bail on the Doc for two picks trade. They can bring in a better vet for two first round picks and Brian Shaw or Lionel Hollins or George Karl would all do a fine job next year as coach.
     
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    Wow, never knew this
     
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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
    Source tells ESPN that Celts & Clips have today begun discussing new trade scenarios to try to satisfy league's misgivings on these deals
     
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    Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 1m
    #Celtics, #Clippers in lockdown--but NBA has problem w/twin transactions. Team official: 'NBA guys say they don't see how this can happen'
     
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    Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
    Last tweet means that Celts/Clips deals -- IF agreed -- won't necessarily take form of DeAndre Jordan & two firsts going to Boston
     
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    Mark Heisler ‏@MarkHeisler 30s
    NBA has to sign off--and freeing KJ-DAJ trade Doc can't be contingent on #Celtics freeing Doc. Teams now sorting it out w/NBA lawyers?
     
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    It seems likely their new GM, CP, would not go for that. ;)
     
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    So don't make it 'contingent'.

    Step 1: Do a KJ-DAJ deal that benefits both sides.
    Step 2: Since the common wisdom is that Doc Rivers can't go back to the Celtics after all this (which I think is overly melodramatic, but we are dealing with large rich spoiled children, so whatever), and since it appears Rivers is CP's pick to coach the team, the Celtics can just release Rivers from his contract and the Clippers can compensate them accordingly for the rights to sign him.

    After making sure the paperwork keeps these two things as separate events, the league should butt out after that.
     
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    Once Clippers release him from his contract, then there is no reason to send the draft picks for him. That would be the kind of wink, wink deal they are trying to avoid. The contingency part is probably harder than most realize because it really is contingent. Rivers likely doesn't want to go to the clips without KG, and I'm sure KG doesn't want to go without Rivers. It may be tough to get around this.
     
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    Stern was just on radio with Stephen A an hour ago. When asked about how the league would react to these deals sent to their offices, he essentially said that with all this hoopla in the media, the teams would have a tough time convincing the league that these deals are legally allowed.
     
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    Why wouldn't the teams trust each other?

    If the Celtics didn't release Rivers to join the Clippers, no way should another team trust them to bargain for anything in good faith.

    I suppose Rivers could go elsewhere after being released, but you'd think they'd get his blessing in advance.
     
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    I don't think that is the issue. When Celtics release Rivers, Rivers becomes a free agent and Celtics have no rights. Now, if rumors where true that Clips owe two draft picks, then how do they get them to Boston? "Commish, we would like to donate these two picks to Boston out of the goodness of our heart." Any passage of the picks to Boston is of course linked to Rivers.

    I think the only way this would work is if Boston put up Rivers on the auction block for bidders, and Clippers made the highest bid. If that is even allowed. At least it separates the deals.
     
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    Can't LAC just include the two picks in the KG deal?
     
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    I thought it was posted that Rivers has a 'no compete' clause in his contract that prohibits him from coaching another NBA team for one year? Is this incorrect? If it's true, could the Clips compensate the Celtics for waiving that clause?
     
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    They could, but then Rivers would have to be available on the open market. You can't do a wink, wink from one deal to the next. There has to be complete separation. I'm not sure that can happen at this point.
     
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    Certainly no one would believe it.
     
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    haha, that's what I was thinking. jordan and 2 picks for Garnett. Then Boston says well, shit, we're rebuilding, no need for Rivers, we'll let you go. Oh, what's that? Sure, we'll waive the no compete so you can go elsewhere.
     

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